2014 242 Stereo Upgrade

[FLJetBoater]

Hey guys....so I'm upgrading my stereo from stock to Wetsounds. There's a few stock speakers that are out completely, and I want to add 2 tower speakers.

I'm thinking of going with 6 REVO 6's (100W RMS each) to replace the stock and 2 REV10 tower speakers (300W RMS each). I may add some new speakers under the captain's chair - not sure which ones yet. And maybe one on the port side cockpit and a sub at some point. I'm pretty sure for those I would need a 2nd amp.

So for the first set of speakers I want to connect all 6 and provide the 100W RMS....what is the best way to connect these to any of the wetsounds amps? I'm thinking of a SYN-DX6. I'm thinking I could use channels 1/2/3 in stereo @ 2 ohms to connect 6 speakers (2 on each channel) connected in parallel which would result in 100W to each speaker which the REVO6's can handle. That leaves 5/6 open for the tower speakers (300W RMS each) on stereo @ 4ohms.


Does that make sense?

 

[flyingnugget]

No one replied??? How'd the upgrade go? Have the same boat and Momma says upgrade the stereo this spring so I'm reasearching where to even begin. The stock system just doesn't do it anymore for our needs/wants.

 

[FLJetBoater]

No one replied??? How'd the upgrade go? Have the same boat and Momma says upgrade the stereo this spring so I'm reasearching where to even begin. The stock system just doesn't do it anymore for our needs/wants.

Lol nope....I did the speakers on their own, turned out pretty good. I'm going to add the amp later in the spring with 2 new batteries. That alone might be fine for me without the extra speakers. Will see...

 

[212s]

Lol nope....I did the speakers on their own, turned out pretty good. I'm going to add the amp later in the spring with 2 new batteries. That alone might be fine for me without the extra speakers. Will see...

Sorry must have missed your post back in the summer when we were out having fun on the water.
As for the amps, your numbers didn't make sense - the SYN-dx6 pumps 125w/ch at 4 ohms and 200w/ch at 2 ohms into ch 1-4, or go with SYN-dx4 and run 4 speakers at 2 ohms on 2 channels to get 100w to each speaker (200w total per ch), and drive the other 2 speakers at 125w at 4 ohms on the other 2 channels.

Or to keep it simple, the HTX-6 and drive each speaker on its own channel at 100w each. Then if you want to add towers, you can add a good 2-ch amp to drive them or the HTX-4 bridged to 300w x2 would match nicely.

 

[FLJetBoater]

Sorry must have missed your post back in the summer when we were out having fun on the water.
As for the amps, your numbers didn't make sense - the SYN-dx6 pumps 125w/ch at 4 ohms and 200w/ch at 2 ohms into ch 1-4, or go with SYN-dx4 and run 4 speakers at 2 ohms on 2 channels to get 100w to each speaker (200w total per ch), and drive the other 2 speakers at 125w at 4 ohms on the other 2 channels.

Or to keep it simple, the HTX-6 and drive each speaker on its own channel at 100w each. Then if you want to add towers, you can add a good 2-ch amp to drive them or the HTX-4 bridged to 300w x2 would match nicely.

That's right, my speakers are 100W RMS and 4ohms. So, wiring 2 speakers in parallel would result in 2 ohms resistance.

On a syn-dx6 I could use channels 1,2,3 to supply 200W RMS each @ 2ohms. Wired in parallel, that would send 100W to each speaker. I'd have channel 4 left to add another set of speakers if desired, plus channels 5/6 to bridge for a sub. I think the math may have been wrong only based on the towers, as they draw 300W RMS each @ 4 ohms and there's no output that would match that on channels 5/6. But using 5/6 for a sub bridged, then adding a separate amp (HTX-4) to power the towers would work out perfect @ 300W 4ohms bridged (mono).

 

[212s]

That's right, my speakers are 100W RMS and 4ohms. So, wiring 2 speakers in parallel would result in 2 ohms resistance.

On a syn-dx6 I could use channels 1,2,3 to supply 200W RMS each @ 2ohms. Wired in parallel, that would send 100W to each speaker. I'd have channel 4 left to add another set of speakers if desired, plus channels 5/6 to bridge for a sub. I think the math may have been wrong only based on the towers, as they draw 300W RMS each @ 4 ohms and there's no output that would match that on channels 5/6. But using 5/6 for a sub bridged, then adding a separate amp (HTX-4) to power the towers would work out perfect @ 300W 4ohms bridged (mono).

I'd check the specs, normally amps can't be wired like that.

Channels typically run in pairs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 for stereo and bridging. The odd numbers are left and even are right (or vice versa depending on your config and wiring but they must remain consistent or you will loose left/right conformity). You can parallel 4 speakers on two channels like 1-2 at 2 ohms to get 200w output per ch, but when parallel the speakers divide and share the output between them so effectively 100w to each speaker. Then you would connect 2 more speakers to channels 3-4 at 100w each at 4 ohms, leaving 5-6 bridged for the sub which should work fine.

 

[FLJetBoater]

I'd check the specs, normally amps can't be wired like that.

Channels typically run in pairs 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 for stereo and bridging. The odd numbers are left and even are right (or vice versa depending on your config and wiring but they must remain consistent or you will loose left/right conformity). You can parallel 4 speakers on two channels like 1-2 at 2 ohms to get 200w output per ch, but when parallel the speakers divide and share the output between them so effectively 100w to each speaker. Then you would connect 2 more speakers to channels 3-4 at 100w each at 4 ohms, leaving 5-6 bridged for the sub which should work fine.

seems like with this amp you can....

The syn-dx6 manual says

Stereo @ 2ohms
Channels 1-4
4 @ 200W

 

[FLJetBoater]

One thing that I would really like to know is if anyone has experience putting speakers in the helm area. How much clearance is behind the different areas in the helm? Port/Stbd side....under throttles/above throttles, etc. I'd really like to plan out exactly what I'm putting there and make sure it will fit before I start drilling holes.

 

[Sotally Tober]

One thing that I would really like to know is if anyone has experience putting speakers in the helm area. How much clearance is behind the different areas in the helm? Port/Stbd side....under throttles/above throttles, etc. I'd really like to plan out exactly what I'm putting there and make sure it will fit before I start drilling holes.

While I had my system professionally installed, I can tell you that Wet Sounds Revo 6's fit (see my build link on my sig below). I've been told that 7.7s could fit but I have not verified that....

 

[Sotally Tober]

That's right, my speakers are 100W RMS and 4ohms. So, wiring 2 speakers in parallel would result in 2 ohms resistance.

On a syn-dx6 I could use channels 1,2,3 to supply 200W RMS each @ 2ohms. Wired in parallel, that would send 100W to each speaker. I'd have channel 4 left to add another set of speakers if desired, plus channels 5/6 to bridge for a sub. I think the math may have been wrong only based on the towers, as they draw 300W RMS each @ 4 ohms and there's no output that would match that on channels 5/6. But using 5/6 for a sub bridged, then adding a separate amp (HTX-4) to power the towers would work out perfect @ 300W 4ohms bridged (mono).

I'm using the Sinister 6 (SDX-6) to power 8 Revo's 6.5s and 2 Revo 10inch Free Air Subs.

 

[212s]

seems like with this amp you can....
The syn-dx6 manual says
Stereo @ 2ohms
Channels 1-4
4 @ 200W

Sorry that's now how amps are designed to work. From what I've seen of the settings in pics online, these are just typical 6-ch amps with the typical settings, and from personal experience going back years I can tell you there is no way to select left/right with the speaker wiring. You can't have channels 1, 2, 3 powering six speakers in stereo - you'd end up with ch 1 & 3 pumping left sounds, and ch 2 pumping right which would not be balanced. For stereo you must use channels in pairs.

With that amp, you could power 6 speakers or 8 or 10 or 12 if you parallel some or all of the channels. But you can't use 1+2+3 to power six speakers. Well you COULD do it, but it would sound messed up with most of the boat pumping out left and only some right sounds.

 

[212s]

One thing that I would really like to know is if anyone has experience putting speakers in the helm area. How much clearance is behind the different areas in the helm? Port/Stbd side....under throttles/above throttles, etc. I'd really like to plan out exactly what I'm putting there and make sure it will fit before I start drilling holes.

There's a few posts about doing this...from what I've gathered, the 24ft models have just enough room to squeeze them into the inset comming panels near the throttles. If I remember right, one person had to cut a screw from the rub-rail to give some clearance. I'll be looking at doing the same thing this spring with my 212, but not sure if there's enough room back there since the 21ft are not as big. If not, I'll put them down by the floor near our feet. I know there's plenty of room and clearance there as I already checked, but I'd rather have them up higher if I can fit them in the comming panels.

 

[FLJetBoater]

Sorry that's now how amps are designed to work. From what I've seen of the settings in pics online, these are just typical 6-ch amps with the typical settings, and from personal experience going back years I can tell you there is no way to select left/right with the speaker wiring. You can't have channels 1, 2, 3 powering six speakers in stereo - you'd end up with ch 1 & 3 pumping left sounds, and ch 2 pumping right which would not be balanced. For stereo you must use channels in pairs.

With that amp, you could power 6 speakers or 8 or 10 or 12 if you parallel some or all of the channels. But you can't use 1+2+3 to power six speakers. Well you COULD do it, but it would sound messed up with most of the boat pumping out left and only some right sounds.

Yeah what I was planned to do was run 4 right, 4 left on 4 channels. 2 right and 2 left, it would be alll balanced and sound normal lol.
And if I add an eq I can control the sound to each channel to pump the rear vs front, etc....

 

[212s]

Yeah what I was planned to do was run 4 right, 4 left on 4 channels. 2 right and 2 left, it would be alll balanced and sound normal lol. And if I add an eq I can control the sound to each channel to pump the rear vs front, etc....

If your stereo head unit has front/rear outputs, you can do that right in the unit. I have my Fusion head unit and 4-ch amp set to do just that...I can fade the swim platform off and just have the inside speakers pumping.