2023 AR220 First Oil Change help??

[ssommer10]

Hello,
I just bought a used 2023 AR220 with 10 hours on it and all it needs was its first 10 hour service. I am going to change the oil and filters myself but a little confused. I understand using a pump to suck oil from the dipstick area as the main area and then removing the hose to suck oil from there as well and then maybe from the oil filter. My question comes to refilling, I will refill with what I removed. Is this boat a combination wet sump and dry sump? If so do I refill half the oil through the dipstick location and the other half on top of the engine with what appears to be the dry sump? Appreciate any help and thank you.

 

[drewkaree]

I have no idea if the owner's manual goes over an oil change, but the service manual for mine identifies exactly what you stated - fill half through the top, and half into the dipstick hole.

I wouldn't refill with exactly what you removed. Use your dipstick as your indicator, not any specific amount. There's a reason for the dipstick, and it's always possible to forget or mess up a number if you're going with an amount. Close to what's removed is a good start, you should be at least halfway up the dipstick. Then, follow the procedure for checking the oil level in your owner's manual, and finish completing your fill to the level you want, while on the water. The motors should be level while on the water, and you'll get a better reading.

If your manual contradicts anything I've stated, then follow those directions instead. You should still be under warranty, and listening to some guy on the internet isn't going to cover your butt if anything I said is contrary to the "authorized procedure" that Yamaha lays out for your specific boat. Hopefully someone with your boat, or a pic of the manual's procedure will post those up for you. If you're considering doing as much as you can for service of your boat, the service manual should be purchased ASAP, but even if you're not, it'll provide valuable insight into what's involved if anything needs to be done for your boat.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

It appears from a quick internet search that the 2023 AR 220 has the TR-1 engines, there are several threads about oil changes, here is one. https://jetboaters.net/threads/2017-2019-ar-210-oil-change-tr-1-engine.23519/

The TR-1 engine is a dry sump, there is an oil tank / cooler on the back of the engine.

First thing I would do would be to level the engines in the driveway and run each engine on the hose for 5-6 min, wait 5 minutes and then check the oil level on the dipstick per the owners manual, to know where the oil level is at before you begin your oil change process. Running the engines will allow the scavenging pump to e move any oil that’s accumulated in the dry sump and return it to the tank so you’ll get an accurate measurement.

As @drewkaree stated above, don’t just replace the amount of oil you take out, it’s good to note how much you removed but in the case of the TR-1 engine which holds I believe 3.5 L of oil with a filter change, I would put in 3.2L to begin with as long as you removed at least that much. As you can see from the linked thread there are two extraction points, be sure to use the thinnest / smallest diameter extraction hose and make sure the extraction hose is all the way at the bottom of both extraction points, this may take a bit if finagling. Again, good to know where the oil level was to begin with to have a good expectation of how much oil is going to be extracted.

Again, as @drewkaree mentioned, get a service manual, in the service manual it is suggested to punch a couple of holes in the oil filters to allow that oil to drain into the engine. You do this right after you’ve run the engines to warm up the old oil to make extraction easier, this will allow plenty of time for the oil in the filters to drain into the engines while you start the extraction process.

Be sure and lay copious amounts of paper towels under the engine in the back under where the oil filters are so any oil that may spill will land on the paper towels. Some people use pig mats or diapers for this.

 

[Berberman]

I went from an AR210 to an AR220. Same twin engine (TR-1)
Below is what I follow.

 

[Berberman]

And for reference, these are the filters I install:
Amazon Filter

 

[Alfredg]

And for reference, these are the filters I install:
Amazon Filter

Has anyone have used an alternative oil filter brand like K&N aside from the yamaha brand?

 

[drewkaree]

Has anyone have used an alternative oil filter brand like K&N aside from the yamaha brand?

Many have done so. No idea for your year, so you may have to be the sleuth and the guinea pig for alternatives

 

[Alfredg]

Many have done so. No idea for your year, so you may have to be the sleuth and the guinea pig for alternatives

Mine is 2024 Ar220. I think I might've found the K&N filter for it but I'm not a 100% sure. It looks like the same size as the Yamaha filter. The part number is HP-1003. I'll have to take the old one and make a comparison.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

Has anyone have used an alternative oil filter brand like K&N aside from the yamaha brand?

Here’s a few pic of the oem filter and the filter box for the TR-1 engines. You can see that this filter is used on a lot of Yamaha products.







I now use this Amsoil filter on my TR-1 engines. I noticed that used oil at 100 hours comes out noticeably cleaner after using the Amsoil filter, I realize that’s a bit subjective, but, it’s a solid observation. I’ve been using Amsoil Marine 10W-40 for some time now.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

Hello,
I just bought a used 2023 AR220 with 10 hours on it and all it needs was its first 10 hour service. I am going to change the oil and filters myself but a little confused. I understand using a pump to suck oil from the dipstick area as the main area and then removing the hose to suck oil from there as well and then maybe from the oil filter. My question comes to refilling, I will refill with what I removed. Is this boat a combination wet sump and dry sump? If so do I refill half the oil through the dipstick location and the other half on top of the engine with what appears to be the dry sump? Appreciate any help and thank you.

Well? How’d it go?

 

[Daren and Heather]

My boat has the same twin engines as yours. I made 2 videos for the 10hr service and oil change that you can watch.

Only thing I would change about how I did it in the video:

1. Poke a hole in the oil filter to help drain it first.
2. Do not use an electric oil extractor. Get the big Oil pump that both Yamaha and West Marine sell. It works waaay better.

How-To Videos I've Created: 10-Hour Service & Oil Change Part 1 and Part 2

 

[Daren and Heather]

And yes, you’re supposed to fill the oil in 2 places, see the 28min mark of video part 1.

How-To Videos I've Created: 10-Hour Service & Oil Change Part 1 and Part 2