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Boat for hire?

Chad Sears

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Location
Puyallup, WA
Boat Make
Yamaha
Year
2017
Boat Model
AR192
Boat Length
19
I purchased my first boat this year and I am a school teacher so I have summers off and I am looking into earning a little extra cash. I was thinking about Uber and then thought why not do something like that with the new boat. Has anyone thought of or looked into doing like charter services on a local lake with daily rental rates where you pilot the boat and supervise while taking out paying strangers to enjoy your boat for the day?
 
Interesting idea, no idea what the demand might be. Probably depends on your area. Also, wonder what your insurance company would say.

When I was in HS, my folks bought a used limo cheap and thought I could drive it as a summer job to do weddings and such. Figured out the livery insurance was nuts. We licensed it as a regular car, instead. I drove myself to prom with a few friends and a couple trips to concerts, etc. then we eventually sold it.
 
Just my opinion, but if you were just taking people from point A to point B, it may be doable. But if you are talking about taking people out for a day on the water, tubing, swimming, wakeboarding, skiing....I think your exposure to liability would be insane!
 
I'm pretty sure that offering a service like this would require you to have a Captain's License through the Coast Guard. My understanding is if anytime you offer someone passage on a vessel and are compensated for it you would need to be a documented captain. Just something to look into if you start doing this.
 
Interesting thoughts I guess I would need to get some paperwork releasing liability but even that isn't bullet proof. Insurance would be another issue. Also while I am writing this I am remembering a question about the boat being used for a business when I purchased it and licensed it with the state.
 
Yeah, more like airbnb than uber. But boatbound does list rentals with a captain also
 
Just my opinion, but if you were just taking people from point A to point B, it may be doable. But if you are talking about taking people out for a day on the water, tubing, swimming, wakeboarding, skiing....I think your exposure to liability would be insane!
This is a good point, now that I think about it, but I do hope this does not fully apply to your guests if those are just friends you are taking out on your boat...(w/no compensation, lol).

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Before I bought my 1st boat, I did a 4 hour rental from a local marina. They gave a quick docking/handling tutorial and then asked if I'd ever operated a boat before. Not sure they saw the confusion in my eyes when they explained terms like windage or caught a glimpse of the fear in my wife and kid's faces, but they rented me "a guy" to go along with the boat they were trying to protect.
 
I do not know how active the Coast Guard is in your area. Very few if any Charter "Cap'n"s in my area have Coast Guard licenses. You might be able to get away without having one but the safer option would be to get your 6 pack license. Other than documenting your experience on the water I believe it to be pretty easy.

I imagine that sunset cruises would be popular if you live in a tourist area.
 
Renting the boat would be one thing, but taking passengers...especially if you were not just transporting, would be a whole different story. Example.....you are captaining the boat and pulling a skier, who has hired you to do so. That skier has an issue, hits something in the water, or just simply falls and injures themselves. I guarantee a lawyer would be calling you about licensing, training, qualifications, etc. AND I am sure your boat insurance would not cover you if you were hiring out and did not have that provision in your insurance. Good idea, but full of pitfalls IMHO!
 
This is a good point, now that I think about it, but I do hope this does not fully apply to your guests if those are just friends you are taking out on your boat...(w/no compensation, lol).

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If you are just taking guests, not for hire, your boat insurance will cover you, just like passengers in your car (not for hire).
 
https://boatbound.co/
https://www.boatsetter.com

They already beat you to it :)


We have a reservation to rent someone's boat listed on boatbound for a upcoming vacation to Tampa, FL in a few weeks
Does anyone have any experience with either of these services? I would be super nervous about renting out my boat to some yahoo without me being able to "captain" them and keep an eye on them. I guess maybe the best thing to do would be to get my USCG Captain's license. Anyone have a Captains License? or know the best way to go about getting one?
 
A quick google search yields: https://www.uscg.mil/nmc/credentials/charter_boat_capt/ Looks like the usual government hoops you'll need to jump through - while throwing money at them the whole time.

Remember that it's not just about having a boat an getting your license. There are different standards for equipment on your boat when you're using it For Hire. You need to constantly keep up with the regulations.

How much will you charge? Per person or per group? How will you handle payment? Cash up front or will you figure out a way to take cards? What will you do in a no-pay situation?

Will you incorporate as a small business? Or just "wing it" and put your home and personal wealth at risk if you're sued?

Then there's people. God love them.

Anyone who's going to hang out a shingle (for any reason) needs to be able to handle people. First and foremost, you're going to need to be customer-service oriented. If you can't make your customers happy, you're not going to keep them. So if your idea of a "tour around the lake" is different from theirs it's YOU who's going to need to adjust your thinking.

Next, you need to be able to keep people under control for safety. If you don't have the stomach for constantly enforcing safety rules (Sir, please sit down. Mam, I need you to NOT sit on the gunnel! Please tell Little Johnny to stop slamming the storage locker door.) this isn't your gig.

Remember that you're going to run into all kinds - and they can turn on a dime. That kind gentleman and his wife that your friend's parents referred to you may turn into a couple of complete a-holes after they get a few cocktails in them. You need to have thought through handling all of this in advance.

I'd never do it for one simple reason: Stress. I hold myself to a very particular standard when doing anything "for hire." While I'm anal about my boat, it would be a HUGE stress point for me to have to maintain it and operate it "for hire." To me, that's a whole 'nuther standard. My boat is supposed to fun. As soon as it becomes work, I'll need another hobby.

So if you don't think any of this will be a big deal, get your license and go for it. Just make sure you've thought it all through. That picture you have in your mind of a pleasant summer cruise with everyone laughing and having a good time is the best day you'll have out there. There will be days on the opposite end of the scale that may make you wish you were teaching Summer School.

Just my 2 cents. (And I AM getting cynical as I get older so take it all with a grain of salt.)
 
I hear what you are saying. Maybe I will stick to Uber, less hassle and probability that I will get sued. But if I am going to be working this summer I would much rather have been out on the water!
 
I agree with the above. From a liability standpoint, if you don't have at least your 6-pack license, you're likely opening yourself up to a whole new world of liability.

I think there's also a difference between speaking a relaxing day on the water with family and friends, and being the captain on a 3-hour tour. I also look at those boats that are hired out and they are beat up...and quick. The people who are on them for the day don't care as "it's not theirs."

I'd also be leery of doing an Air B&B type thing with a jet boat. As we all know, these critters handle different than other boats on the water and even though someone may have years of experience with props, put them at the controls of a jet, and I consider them a noob again.

Just my two cents...
 
My boat is an escape from everything else which is reason number one I would not want to turn it into a job ... it would not be as pleasureable for pleasure. What happens when some pulls a muscle climbing into your boat for a sunset cruise or slips and falls off the back? How about when a skier tweaks something that keeps them from working for weeks? All of these are things that outfits have to deal withand can make money on in scale but very tough for just one small boat.

UBER on the other hand is a decent idea. WA must be beautiful in the summer. I bet there are some restaurants that really pull in the customers in the summer. I know teachers who work as wait staff at a resuramt on the river near me that is only open in the summer. They claim to make about 20k each in 9 weeks including tips. Not shabby.
 
I agree with most of the points above but I do think this could be done. The only real thing I would change is instead of renting yourself and you boat out for x amount of hours and being at the customers mercy of what they want to do I would likely set it up more as a tour style operation and just offer a couple options with a set agenda. This would leave you in control from the beginning and the expectations would be set. Maybe offer a couple options like a dinner cruise that leaves the dock at 6 pm with a short cruise to a restaurant on the lake and finish with a sunset and then back to the dock or a lake site seeing tour that has a specific agenda for a set time frame. These would offer a interment setting as you would only be taking one family or couple and would take water sports and the customer trying to direct you out of the equation as you could always use the excuse of needing to stick to the agenda and time frame if you found the customer was trying to direct you in a way you didn't wan't them to.
 
I've seen ads for such services on my local craigslist but never looked further than the $600 to $800 per day price tag and the notes that renter pays all launch fees, fuel, etc.

A coworker of mine upgraded from one big sail boat to a bigger one and got his captains license with the thought of legally running a charter business here in SF bay on the side. It took him 6 to 12 months to get his license and he quickly lost the urge to run a charger business. "Boating with friends and family is very different from boating with / for customers."

I thought about signing up as an uber or Lyft driver on the weekends just to meet new people but after seeing a few videos of bad customers I'm going to pass.

If I was going to try and make money with my boat I would probably rent it through a third party rental company, some here have tried it with horrible results though so I would not do this unless I had to.
 
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