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It's on my list as well. I've seen a 190 go through there before, so I know it can be done.
I want to know how to keep from stuffing the bow on the way out. I think I can see the timing and "surfing" to get back in. How the hell do you learn how to do this without risking life and limb to "learn on the job?"
It's on my list as well. I've seen a 190 go through there before, so I know it can be done.
I want to know how to keep from stuffing the bow on the way out. I think I can see the timing and "surfing" to get back in. How the hell do you learn how to do this without risking life and limb to "learn on the job?"
You gotta keep the shield up, aka bow, like the 210 FSH Sport in the pic below. All that matters is the boats speed in the water, not how fast its going over ground. The outflow can be close to 10 mph, so in theory, in my boat, I’d need to be going 14 mph in the water and 24 mph over ground at max outflow, I do not think I want to attempt that As that would be a huge day at Haulover. Somewhere I have a link saved of a 210 FSH sport going out of Haulover on a decent day with 7 people on board, only one in the bow, one on the forward CC seat and the rest around the helm or in the rear jump seats, it could be 8 people if another is in the port jump seat.
Found it!
210 FSH Sport fail at 34 seconds. There was a fair amount of discussion here about this mooseknuckle having all those people up front. At least the little boy has a life jacket on.
210 FSH Sport Win at 3:14…. Riding the hump, most of the weight is centered.. they could have put big boy who’s riding in the bow in the port jump seat for the trip through the inlet but the pilot looks like a boss coming through there and no one spills their drink. There is only 7 in the boat. Just goes to show what you can do if you know your boat and its limitations.
Gotta practice on those crappy windy days at the home lake, and use some good logic. It’s still going to be scary as hell, read terrifying, the first time you do it if you are not used to going through big water.. I went through some 6’ waves on the Missouri river to get back to the boat ramp, they were very close together and I was going down stream and the wind was blowing up to 50mph coming up stream, as I’d go over one wave I’d hear the jets suck air and engines would hit the limiters.. didn’t stuff the bow but the bow splash hard, and the splashed water was caught by the wind and thrown up and over the side towards the helm, it was like standing in the wind and having someone throw a 5 gallon bucket of water on you from 5 feet away!
Thanks for the Vid upload. I plan on returning to the 48 and probably making FLA the new base camp so I'm keen on learning the ins-outs of all the ramps, marinas, etc. and Haulover is something I've had my eye on.
I would try it just to see if I can. I didn't see anything in video of real use IMO. Manage speed to keep bow up accordingly. I find making quick micro adjustments using cruise assist extremely helpful in conditions like Haulover.
210 FSH Sport fail at 34 seconds. There was a fair amount of discussion here about this mooseknuckle having all those people up front. At least the little boy has a life jacket on.
210 FSH Sport Win at 3:14…. Riding the hump, most of the weight is centered.. they could have put big boy who’s riding in the bow in the port jump seat for the trip through the inlet but the pilot looks like a boss coming through there and no one spills their drink. There is only 7 in the boat. Just goes to show what you can do if you know your boat and its limitations.
Best I can tell, the only real difference between fail guy and win guy here (aside from the bikini count) was the speed. Win guy kept a slightly faster speed and didn't let the bow drop. Fail guy all but stopped when he took the first one over the front.
Only way to keep the bow up is to stay at a relatively slow speed right? 10-14mph or so. Anything less and I'm just plowing water, anything more and I'm on plane and bow comes back down. Is it really just that simple as keeping the speed acceptable and the bow pointed up?
Also.....What the hell is out there that people keep going out for? I get the fishing, but seems like a lot of party-er's heading out. Big social location outside the ICW?
Best I can tell, the only real difference between fail guy and win guy here (aside from the bikini count) was the speed. Win guy kept a slightly faster speed and didn't let the bow drop. Fail guy all but stopped when he took the first one over the front.
Only way to keep the bow up is to stay at a relatively slow speed right? 10-14mph or so. Anything less and I'm just plowing water, anything more and I'm on plane and bow comes back down. Is it really just that simple as keeping the speed acceptable and the bow pointed up?
Also.....What the hell is out there that people keep going out for? I get the fishing, but seems like a lot of party-er's heading out. Big social location outside the ICW?
There are two factors and they both appear important. Weight distribution and speed, while the speed is very important, if too much weight bias is forward the bow will be hard to keep up, so win guy had the majority of the weight bias at the helm or slightly aft. Fail guy had too much weight forward and was going way too slow, perhaps on purpose? (As a side my dentist office has two TV screens in each room, one in front of you and the other on the ceiling. So while getting my teeth cleaned yesterday I started out with a world cat test on you tube that turned into Wavy Boats live from Haulover, man that looked nice and it was a relatively calm day, saw one 210 FSH cruise by)
Yes and yes, you are correct, keep the speed so you are riding the hump just before coming on plane. That gives the max thrust / control authority, with the highest bow position. I’ve used this quite a few times in 3-4’ high frequency wind driven waves on the lakes I have around here, other than the wind grabbing the bow splashes and throwing it back on you, the ride is quite smooth. This is where the cruise assist is really useful, makes it easy to make finer corrections to the cruise speed without the motion of the boat causing too great of throttle adjustments, although sometimes you do have to go full throttle to keep the bow from dipping too much, pretty fun stuff. Just like low speed maneuvering it just takes practice.
I think folks head out to go fishing or hang out at sand bars or just float, my guess is in the ICW somewhere. A lot of boats I see have those floating mats on the stern. Could be folks just like to get out on the open ocean and float around away from folks as well.
Also.....What the hell is out there that people keep going out for? I get the fishing, but seems like a lot of party-er's heading out. Big social location outside the ICW?
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Probably just saving time (or trying). If coming from Ft. Lauderdale it's either that or I would imagine a very long ride at 6mph through the ICW. Same idea to the South.
Thanks for the Vid upload. I plan on returning to the 48 and probably making FLA the new base camp so I'm keen on learning the ins-outs of all the ramps, marinas, etc. and Haulover is something I've had my eye on.