Need advice

[Av8tor07]

good morning guys. I introduced myself yesterday, I have an I/O but I'm seriously in the market for a Yamaha. My question is? I'm thinking about the 2017 sx210, the dealer near me should have one to look at soon. On the other hand, there are some 2016 212x for sale online. What do you guys think would be a better choice? The sx210 has a msrp of $39,999 plus all the other fees, I believe that the 212x would be in the same ballpark. Thanks for your help.

 

[Corey Champlin]

The 212x would be a better boat but I doubt they would be in the same ballpark as far as price. The Yamaha site has the new ones listed at 58k. I think the 212x comes with twin supercharged engines vs the 210 which are not supercharged. Plus the wakeboard tower and all the goodies in a 212x. 210 is the entry model for the 21 footers while the 212x is the top of the line.

 

[Av8tor07]

The 212x would be a better boat but I doubt they would be in the same ballpark as far as price. The Yamaha site has the new ones listed at 58k. I think the 212x comes with twin supercharged engines vs the 210 which are not supercharged. Plus the wakeboard tower and all the goodies in a 212x. 210 is the entry model for the 21 footers while the 212x is the top of the line.

I've seen new 2016 212x anywhere from $41,700 to about $49,000. They're left over models. I'm just wondering if I need the whole articulating keel and all that since I have never driven a jet boat.

 

[Speedling]

212x comes with 1.8 engines, not supercharged. They are great motors.
The x will have cool features for surfing etc you may want.
The sx210 has no tower and less horsepower. For me it would be a no brainer.

 

[AZDANSX230HO]

Buy once, cry once, get your 2nd boat first, you wont regret getting the 212X.

 

[Corey Champlin]

I would also say get the 212x. Especially if you can get it in the same price range.

 

[robert843]

If you can get a left over 212x at around 43k out the door it's a no brainer get it. Due to the new pricing you will see a 16 212x probably hold its value well for years as well. The things you will loose will be the keel and conext and the reviews are mixed on those anyways.

 

[Av8tor07]

The conext to me doesn't matter. I just didn't know if the articulating keel was a necessity for a newbie to the jet market.

 

[jcyamaharider]

212X All of the way. Give yourself room to grow, not wanting another boat later down the road. The 212X will have factory ballast and 1.8 liter engines for tons of power regarding watersports.

 

[seadude]

Best value by far would be a lightly used 2015 240 series - I'd also take my time searching over the winter and plan on using it next spring. As a new jetboater you'll appreciate the keel and rudder.

 

[Mystic1906]

@Av8tor07 I don't know much about the articulating keel as a new jet boat owner myself with an older AR210 but I will say that getting either the Thrust Vector or Cobra Steering products will help tremendously. I noticed a big difference in operating the boat after I put mine on. I came from running boats with outboards so the transition took a little adjusting to. Buy the boat that best fits what you want to do while on it and your budget. Aftermarket stuff can be purchased to customize and make it what you want (ballast, wake tower, etc..)

 

[Matt Phillips]

If you have kids at all (or if you're a grown-up kid), get the 212x over the SX. The main difference being the tower...as kids will want to wakeboard. When I looked at mine, I didn't think I'd want/need a tower and was looking at the difference between an SX and Limited S. Now that I've had the boat a few years, we've all grown into wake boarding and the tower already on the boat made it easy to migrate into water sports.

As someone said above, buy your second boat first so you can grow into it longer.

 

[Julian]

Took me a while....bought my first boat THIRD....should have gotten a tower on my 1st two boats....and didn't...D'Oh! Go the X route or one with a tower (assuming you have any kids)

 

[MNdrifter]

For me the biggest selling point of the 2017 is the improved noise reduction

 

[Av8tor07]

For me the biggest selling point of the 2017 is the improved noise reduction

Is the 2016 loud as far as you know?

 

[OCMD]

Buy used. The market will be heating up very soon. These boats are bulletproof. DO NOT FEAR a used one. I guarantee in the coming months you will see a few beauties on sale on this site. No to the 210. Go 212, 230 or 240 and take the first great deal that appears.

 

[buckbuck]

For me it would be a tough call. The 2016 212X is a nice boat but it is noisy. A new 2017 will be quiet and have hinged seat along with some other upgrades. But, like what others have said, I would strongly urge you to buy a boat with a tower. You are only a few years away from your boy asking if he can try wakeboarding. It is also likely the first time you and your wife try surfing you will be hooked. A 2017 AR210 may be a good fit to consider.

 

[Av8tor07]

That's the reason why I joined this forum. I had asked someone else if the 2016 212x was quiet and I didn't get a response. Now I know that it isn't. I do want a quiet boat. I will certainly consider the ar model. Thanks guys

 

[MrMoose]

I've seen new 2016 212x anywhere from $41,700 to about $49,000. They're left over models. I'm just wondering if I need the whole articulating keel and all that since I have never driven a jet boat.

My first jet boat had an articulating keel, with the new 24' hull design, and all I can say is that there isn't a prop-driven boat that can handle like it. It's ridiculous. Any prop-driven boat would cavitate with half the G's. I don't know if the "older" gen hulls will grab and turn like the new hulls. I think that they spin on the water more than they grab, which seems to be a preference of the older hull-design owners. I love the grab of the new hull design. Since the new hull of the 21 has the keel, I assume that it will grab in the corners like my 2015 24'er. I think that you're really looking at two very different boats. Also, expect that the boat with the keel will track better when crossing waves and boat wakes; it shouldn't slide off and it should track straight.
Good luck.

 

[buckbuck]

I should probably temper that remark by saying the 2017 are purposely engineered to be quieter than all previous 21 footers. Having spent the last 8 seasons with my 212X I will say that is the #1 reason tempting me to upgrade.
None of us have had a boat with twin TR-1 motors. If you go the AR210 route make sure you test drive and feel comfortable with the performance. Take the whole family and some chubby friends to load it down good. Run it at 18 mph and 9 mph to see how it does. If you do get the opportunity then please report back to us.