Perfect Pass Group Buy Any Interest?

[JetBoatPilot]

Hey guys and gals,

Someone posted a question on FB about a group buy for Perfect Pass Systems. If there is enough interest I will go to the owner of the company and see if he'd like to allow us to host another one this year. It would be in February if we are able to do it.

 

[giroux68]

I'd be in for a hydro phase.

 

[Whisky]

Hey! Thanks for the offer, if possible I’d be more interested in the HydroPhase also

 

[hdbluedeuce]

Third vote for a HydroPhase if someone could make it happen.

 

[Betik]

I may consider a HydroPhase too.

 

[JetBoatPilot]

It's not looking good for a group buy for perfect pass. We are not going to be getting into the Hydro Phase business so you may want to check with another vendor about a group buy for that.

 

[Betik]

If I may ask. Is this just a business decision or do you have any concerns about the product quality on Hydro Phase?

 

[JetBoatPilot]

I have not studied it out but in my opinion they are too new on the scene to consider them at the moment.

 

[Betik]

I understand. thank you

 

[JetBoatPilot]

You're welcome!

 

[swatski]

I have not studied it out but in my opinion they are too new on the scene to consider them at the moment.

Not sure what the problem would be with Ridesteady (Hydrophase) being too new? They have been around for almost a decade...

Going into Yamaha twins was a challenge, but a very smart move.
It is a game changer:

1. in all the Yammie models that have mechanical throttle to the APS sensor RideSteady features a single throttle lever mode-equivalent (fly-by-wire) system (Ridesteady bypasses the mechanical cable to APS)
   
2. RS modules are NOT servo controlled, they run off the sensor at the APS and are digitally controlled
3. RS install is way, way simpler and only consists of some light power wiring at the helm and hooking up a harness at the motors (APS units and Cam Position sensors) - it's truly a plug and play system that beats PP hands down (I've had and installed both)

Am I missing anything?

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[JetBoatPilot]

Maybe I should have said I have not received enough positive endorsement of the product to take a chance on it. After another 6 months to a year of reviews like yours we could be persuaded to look into it.

Thanks for the info. It's helpful.

 

[swatski]

Maybe I should have said I have not received enough positive endorsement of the product to take a chance on it. After another 6 months to a year of reviews like yours we could be persuaded to look into it.

Thanks for the info. It's helpful.

I think that would be fantastic for the owners!

I'm not sure why is Yamaha still selling most of their boat models with the mechanical cable operating the APSs? Maybe that Zero Off keeping the patent for electronic operated speed control - collecting royalties on the E series (and rotax boats)? But - whatever the reason - as long as they do that the @Ridesteady is a perfect plug-in.

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[Ridesteady]

Hi Guys,

Thanks to everyone for their interest! I appreciate the letters and calls - it seems like everyone I run into is a class act on this forum.

Unfortunately, since Ridesteady for Yamaha is a relatively new product, and since we're still offering the $100 back for install pics / info, we're not in a position to run a group buy, per se.

However, I would like to offer $50 off for all orders received in January (just put "JETBOATERS.NET @username" in the comments section of the order - it will be credited back before it ships). If you also submit install photos and info (per an email you will receive after you order), that's a total of $150 back.

The deadline to submit the install info/photos will be extended to April 30.

The install photos are pretty straightforward - take a look at some here: https://www.hydrophase.com/support/...d_cust_video_tid=All&field_cust_quote_tid=All

Note that we do have limited stock, and there could be a two or three week delay in order fulfillment.

Lastly, thanks as always to all the existing customers on this forum, in particular those that have taken the time to comment on their experience with Ridesteady. Our first Ridesteady for Yamaha customer, @swatski, always deserves a special call-out for his knowledge and generosity!

 

[robert843]

Not sure what the problem would be with Ridesteady (Hydrophase) being too new? They have been around for almost a decade...

Going into Yamaha twins was a challenge, but a very smart move.
It is a game changer:

1. in all the Yammie models that have mechanical throttle to the APS sensor RideSteady features a single throttle lever mode-equivalent (fly-by-wire) system (Ridesteady bypasses the mechanical cable to APS)
   
2. RS modules are NOT servo controlled, they run off the sensor at the APS and are digitally controlled
3. RS install is way, way simpler and only consists of some light power wiring at the helm and hooking up a harness at the motors (APS units and Cam Position sensors) - it's truly a plug and play system that beats PP hands down (I've had and installed both)

Am I missing anything?

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I'm confused by this are you saying if I install this product the mechanical throttle cable is bypassed and you now have electronic throttle control?

 

[swatski]

I'm confused by this are you saying if I install this product the mechanical throttle cable is bypassed and you now have electronic throttle control?

Yes, in part. You still need to push the throttles up to get going but thereafter the R-S can take over and you are controlling both motors in synch with a knob. F@#$ing brilliant, I tell you.

What I typically do these days, when cruising, I will start by using throttles to get up to speed with the R-S system OFF. When I get to the desired speed (with the R-S still OFF) I adjust the "set" RPM on the R-S to a value close to what I'm actually running, and then just push the ON button to activate the system. At that point the system takes over, it may ask for "more throttle" - in any case I just push the throttles all the way up (and leave them alone). Thereafter just adjust RPM/speed to my liking with the knob (while the throttles are up all the way and out of the way)

The system's take-over is very smooth (due to a small RPM delta - between the set and actual RPM when the system is turned ON, but it doesn't really matter, it can be as big as you want). To stop quickly, or in emergency, just grab the throttles and pull back - to override the R-S.

I LOVE it. The throttles pushed all the way up never shift back and I have very smooth and very precise control of the RPMs/speed using the knob, even in VERY rough conditions - it is so much easier to operate than the throttles. The R-S keeps the RPMs synchronized between the engines real tight across the whole RPM range - it is great to hear that twin engine hum when they are in synch.

If I have any issues with the R-S, just about the only one I can think of is - if I forget to have the system set for holding RPM vs speed (that needs to be done while the boat operates at speeds under 5mph or so) - so for example if I get underway and realize the system is in the "hold speed" mode but I want to go "hold RPM" (which I always do for cruising) to change that I need to slow down/stop the boat. That's about the only annoyance I have experienced. Other than the high power VHF interference which has already been fixed in the R-S. (by the way, the Perfect Pass is also subject to that, they just never addressed it! But that's a different conversation)

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