Ribbon delete 2019 1.8l 210fsh no go

[orexismd]

Wanted to try and save others a little bit of elbow grease and frustration. Tried performing a ribbon delete on 2019 FSH 210 but wasn’t able to get it done. It appears they have changed design and molded, onto the manifold, the black plastic ring just inside of the red rubber O-ring so that it cannot be removed in order to remove the ribbon beneath it:/

 

[Jason spanick]

Was planning the same with my 2018 212 limited s. So hopefully someone will chime in with some advice. I would like to know What year they change it. I have seen where they had to use a hole saw to drill it out on a 1.8 but not sure the year. And if I can remove mine is there anything showing a difference in having the sleeve insert or not. Can’t think that it would effect the air turbulence enough to cause any issue. Seen a lot of talk but has anyone done a actual test.

 

[Dixie Highway]

I promise you can definitely get the ribbon out (by destroying it) but the results in my opinion were not worth the effort. In addition to destroying the ribbon, you will destroy your hands and knuckles. I will advise though, in your FSH you do not have the 1.8 liter like a 212 Limited, you have the TR-1 engines which are 1 liter 3 cyl engines. More like an AR or SX210.

 

[orexismd]

ah thanks for the clarification. will leave as is.

 

[orexismd]

I was trying to trouble shoot why i have lost some power. Brand new, I could top top out at 48/49 mph. Now I see 40/41 solo. I took the extra added weight out (trolling motor and batteries, emptied cooler) and getting 43/44. So' I've lost ~5mph. I did notice I overfilled the oil and had some oil in the intake when trying to remove the ribbon. Air filter needs changing as well. Have some small dings on the starboard impeller. probably a combination of these factors. Going to try running w/o the filter to test and lightly file the impeller edges

Port:


Starboard:

 

[Dixie Highway]

I have lost 2-3 mph since new, trying to find it doing the same things you are. I'm at the point now where I'll likely be sealing my pump tunnels and looking at some impeller cone options to help with a bit of cavitation I have now that didn't used to be there.

 

[Botchco]

I was trying to trouble shoot why i have lost some power. Brand new, I could top top out at 48/49 mph. Now I see 40/41 solo. I took the extra added weight out (trolling motor and batteries, emptied cooler) and getting 43/44. So' I've lost ~5mph. I did notice I overfilled the oil and had some oil in the intake when trying to remove the ribbon. Air filter needs changing as well. Have some small dings on the starboard impeller. probably a combination of these factors. Going to try running w/o the filter to test and lightly file the impeller edges

Port:
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Starboard:

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PLEASE POST WHAT YOUR FINDINGS ARE! CURIOUS OF SAME THING!

 

[jEt_jAk]

Gotta cut it out

https://jetboaters.net/threads/ribbon-delete-2018-ar195.27412/

 

[JTrottaNY]

Port side definitely looks like its due for replacement. I didn't realize how "little" damage could cause a huge drop off in performance until I replaced the impeller on my old boat (single engine). It looked about like your port side, the boat cavitated badly and I couldn't get up on plane with anyone else in the boat. I even looked at it and thought "no way I've seen boats with mangled props, this isn't too bad". Put a new impeller and wear ring in and it was back up to about 46mph with no cavitation.

I would guess your starboard side is doing most of the work right now. Maybe try running each side independently and see how bad the difference is?

 

[tdonoughue]

Yes, your port at least needs a good filing and may need a replace. I started mine with filing and it was good enough.

Second, on your starboard there is a piece of something stuck in your impeller. As small as it may seem, it can have a negative impact by causing cavitation.

Finally, and most importantly, most of the degradation in pump performance comes from some of the silicone from the intake path coming off. Everything from immediately outside the grate up to the impeller should be smooth. So outside of the grate, those bolts holding the grate to the boat should be filled and smoothed. All of the joints to the grate, to the cleanout port, to the pump--each should be smoothed over with silicone. If there are gaps there, they need to be filled. Did that to my boat and it was like the puppy was brand new again.

Do all that first before looking further, IMHO.

 

[steve0617]

Riva sells a kit to cut out the ribbon. It’s not coming out on its own. It needs drilling with a hole saw as part of the kit.