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Wouldn't it be cool if Yamaha makes a 30 footer jetboat

Amar Nanduri

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2011
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Will we ever be able to convince Yamaha that there is a market for the 30 foot jetboats ? Are there any competitors that make the 30 foot jetboats?
 
Seen a 25ft Scarab at the boat show, that thing looked huge!
 
I think the prevailing opinion is that that engines/power required to run something of that size would be highly inefficient compared to a similarly powered prop boat. If they could figure it out, I would be all over it.

There have been ongoing rumors of a 26' cuddy or something similar for a long time now, but with each year we have only seen the introduction of boats 24.5' and smaller. Per my point above, Yamaha seems very reluctant to come out with anything bigger.
 
I think the prevailing opinion is that that engines/power required to run something of that size would be highly inefficient compared to a similarly powered prop boat. If they could figure it out, I would be all over it.

There have been ongoing rumors of a 26' cuddy or something similar for a long time now, but with each year we have only seen the introduction of boats 24.5' and smaller. Per my point above, Yamaha seems very reluctant to come out with anything bigger.
I saw the 25 scarab. It looks pretty cool. Yamaha can always use a 3 engine configuration (the existing engines on the 24 footers) to power a 30 footer.
 
Yamaha built their boat business on quality boats at an attractive price. The lower propulsion cost allowed for Yamaha's prices to be very competitive. A few years ago when a 242 was $50K I dreamed of a 28' version for $75K. Now that a 242 is over $70K I do not see a $100K 28 footer being a successful offering.
 
Be cool to look at. I am certainly not part of the market if there is one. Off the top of my head isn't long term wet slipping in the water for jetboats not a good idea especially in salt water? And I would guess trailering a 30 foot boat is not really an attractive option either.
 
few extra feet of fiberglass should be CHEAP!
 
Yamaha built their boat business on quality boats at an attractive price. The lower propulsion cost allowed for Yamaha's prices to be very competitive. A few years ago when a 242 was $50K I dreamed of a 28' version for $75K. Now that a 242 is over $70K I do not see a $100K 28 footer being a successful offering.
They have to keep making money somehow. So they put new stuff in and jack up the prices.
 
On an affordable 30 footer there will be more tourists to bimiji and exumas [flag]
 
I would think a 30 footer wouldn't be practical for watersports and rivers and small lakes. It would draft more and less manuverable. So the market is much smaller for that size.
Then there is the towability... not practical at all and it should be on a boat lift not in a salt water slip imho.
 
I think the prevailing opinion is that that engines/power required to run something of that size would be highly inefficient compared to a similarly powered prop boat. If they could figure it out, I would be all over it.

There have been ongoing rumors of a 26' cuddy or something similar for a long time now, but with each year we have only seen the introduction of boats 24.5' and smaller. Per my point above, Yamaha seems very reluctant to come out with anything bigger.
My understanding is they have been seriously considering a 26' twin with SVHOs. The issue there is fuel efficiency and range.

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My understanding is they have been seriously considering a 26' twin with SVHOs. The issue there is fuel efficiency and range.

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I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I think fuel efficiency pretty much goes out the window on almost all boats over 26' except boats powered by diesel engines.

We looked at a 28' Bayliner several years ago, it had a 100 gallon gas tank and only one engine.
 
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I think fuel efficiency pretty much goes out the window on almost all boats over 26' except boats powered by diesel engines.

We looked at a 28' Bayliner several years ago, it had a 100 gallon gas tank and only one engine.
Oh I would totally agree, but it is about the range. With two SHO/SVHO you could be burning some 80 gal an hour at WOT.

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Oh I would totally agree, but it is about the range. With two SHO/SVHO you could be burning some 80 gal an hour at WOT.

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The current 242x with 1.8L HO engines burns 23.5 gph at WOT @ 50.3mph (which means you could hypothetically burn through the 50 gallon tank in less than 2 hours!). I'm not sure that a 26' or 27'er would burn 80 gallons/hr at WOT. Even if it did, I think a 100 gallon tank would still be pretty good for the average user wanting to get up on plane and cruise for the day.

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Will we ever be able to convince Yamaha that there is a market for the 30 foot jetboats ? Are there any competitors that make the 30 foot jetboats?
If they did, I'd have to build another out building. I just finished mine for my 24' boat.
 
The current 242x with 1.8L HO engines burns 23.5 gph at WOT @ 50.3mph (which means you could hypothetically burn through the 50 gallon tank in less than 2 hours!). I'm not sure that a 26' or 27'er would burn 80 gallons/hr at WOT. Even if it did, I think a 100 gallon tank would still be pretty good for the average user wanting to get up on plane and cruise for the day.

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Yes, you are correct! I had the numbers wrong (by a factor of two), should have said ~40 gal per hour for a twin SHO/SVHO vs ~20 for a twin HO -- the only comparison of the HO vs SHO in a boat would be 190 vs 192.
Here are the numbers for a 190 (basically, 12 gph, 43mph at WOT):
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And 192 (double that - 21 gph, 49mph at WOT):
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I don't think it would be a market for one. Most 30' plus boats are blue water cruising for fishing or destination trips and cabin cruisers. They would have to give up draft and do a deep v hull and have trim also besides tabs. You would lose most benifits of our smaller jet boats. I just don't see a real market for it for people already spending 250k on a proven boat. Unless you go into a larger cat style boat with jet drive.
 
If I was to buy a 28 Ft or larger boat and spend six figures in the process, I would buy a go fast boat vs. a Yamaha or other brand jet boat.
 
I do think a 30' Yamaha Jet-Boat would be nice for long ocean crossing.
 
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