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Yamalube VS Mobil 1 oil

Waveweaver

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Location
Lake Wylie, SC
Boat Make
Yamaha
Year
2017
Boat Model
Limited S
Boat Length
24
Yamalube to Mobil 1,To switch or not to switch is the question here. my boat- 2017 242 Limited S with twin 1.8's Mobil 1 has been our go to oil for everything else because it is fantastic oil but unsure about it for the marine application. Any of you experienced mechanics switched? Pros/Cons I have mechanical background in small and big block racing engines but not much on marine so some of the things I'm thinking about are; effects of viscosity change, length of time for oil changes and would it hold up the same amount of hours as yamalube, would it affect fuel consumption. TIA for any help making this decision.
 
"If" I were to switch to a synthetic oil for the 1.8L, I would use Amsoil 10-W40 Synthetic Marine oil. Lots of additives specifically formulated for marine use engines and Amsoil is about tops for oil.

I do not believe Mobil 1 has a 10-W40 marine specific oil. Their 10-W40's are usually motorcycle oils or high mileage.

With that being said, these are Yamaha designed and built engines so they specify the oil requirements.

I would stick to 10-W40 Yamalube. The 4 quarts and filter packs are about $50.00 each so $100.00 to do both engines.

I change my oil at the end of every summer, so not that many hours on the oil and

Just my 2 cents. :)
 
I've ran Mobil 1 in my Yam 90 outboard for years, changing it annually with no issues. It doesn't spin near the RPM's but I don't see why there would be an issue with running it in the 242. I recently purchased an AR230 and Mobil 1 is what I plan on running. Each person has their preferences on oil, if your not sure or feel uneasy using anything but Yamalube then that's what I'd recommend using.

Just my .02
 
In @swatski nightmare thread it was revealed that Amsoil wasn't the preferred oil recommendation by the mechanic. Their recommendation was to stick with OEM. Personally I change oil each season and don't put enough hours each year for it to matter, so I'll stick with yamalube.
 
Why not yamalube?
 
Run Mobile 1 for a season or 50 hrs and then test the oil. There's no reason to pay extra for additives you don't need. AMSOIL offers a great additive package but with oil changes at 100hrs or less, it may not be necessary depending on how you run the engine. If Mobile 1 meets the required spec then it will do the job.


Also, lookup Project Farm oil test on youtube.

I use a diesel oil Rotella t6 in my motorcycle because it meets spec and tests very well after 7000 miles between changes.
 
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When I first looked into the "best" oil to use it seems the 4W has antifoam additives for sustained operation at high rpms. If the oil foams the oil pump(s) can lose flow and the engine will burn up. I'm not going to risk that using an automotive oil! I don't know if other marine oils have similar additives but I don't know how any could be an improvement over the factory recommendation. I'll stick with Yamalube 4W.
 
Castrol 10-40 full synthetic motorcycle oil in both the wave runner (2009, supercharged) and the ‘18 242x since new.
 
As long as the oil you are going to use meets the specs listed for the application that is all that matters. Yamaha “recommends” you use yamalube. Just like Ford “recommends” you use motorcraft oil.
 
In @swatski nightmare thread it was revealed that Amsoil wasn't the preferred oil recommendation by the mechanic. Their recommendation was to stick with OEM. Personally I change oil each season and don't put enough hours each year for it to matter, so I'll stick with yamalube.
Okay, let me clarify a couple of things here.

First, I have and would continue to use the same schedule of oil changes in my Yamaha motors: Yamalube during break-in period and for the first 2-3 oil changes, after that a switch to Amsoil Marine (10W-40).

Second, it was the dealer (not the mechanic) who voiced opinions on the importance of the use of Yamalube - I have heard the same line very consistently from that dealership and other, I believe it might possibly maybe have something to do with them being a Yamaha dealership, perhaps, LOL. Consistent with that, Yamalube offers a separate and pretty gimmicky all time "warranty" if you use their oil and all other maintenance products.

In this regard, in my particular case (the engine making milkshake oil) the dealer's point was more or less EXACTLY what @BrentEB pointed out too: the presumed anti-foaming properties of Yamalube could save me from trouble I experienced!
When I first looked into the "best" oil to use it seems the 4W has antifoam additives for sustained operation at high rpms. If the oil foams the oil pump(s) can lose flow and the engine will burn up. I'm not going to risk that using an automotive oil! I don't know if other marine oils have similar additives but I don't know how any could be an improvement over the factory recommendation. I'll stick with Yamalube 4W.
Well, the dealer's changed my milkshake oil - mind you - with the thought the use of Amsoil instead of Yamalube being a potential culprit in condensation or some other blow-by or exhaust leak or something type of malfunction leading to "making oil" situation (there are many, many reports of Yamaha outboards "making oil" due to rings not setting properly etc etc, not relevant here, unfortunately). So after the thorough flash and replacing all the Amsoil with Yamalube by the dealership - I took the boat out to test the fix and... quickly made more milkshake within minutes. So there went that little theory - out the window.
That's the story, and after that I have not heard another word about the importance of using Yamalube instead of Amsoil.

Third, I have no way of telling exactly how long the milkshake oil sat inside the motor. Current thinking, TTBOMK, is this is a case of another cracked head. Importantly, after removing the top, the bottom shows no signs of any obvious issues and certainly no indication of corrosion etc.

That last observation makes me think the Amsoil Marine is not a bad deal at all. Would it be any different with Yamalube? I have no idea. I know it would not be immune to water leak and it would not not-milkshake (due to it's magical anti-foaming properties) as that's been tested. Would the engine components rust? - no idea. They didn't with the Amsoil, that's all I can tell.

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Yamalube to Mobil 1,To switch or not to switch is the question here. my boat- 2017 242 Limited S with twin 1.8's Mobil 1 has been our go to oil for everything else because it is fantastic oil but unsure about it for the marine application. Any of you experienced mechanics switched? Pros/Cons I have mechanical background in small and big block racing engines but not much on marine so some of the things I'm thinking about are; effects of viscosity change, length of time for oil changes and would it hold up the same amount of hours as yamalube, would it affect fuel consumption. TIA for any help making this decision.
I would not hesitate to switch to whatever oil you believe is better (while meeting the required standard) including Mobile 1 which I believe many here are using. The Yamaha jetski racers seem to split evenly between Amsoil and Yamalube, all the Yamalube ones that I know of first hand use Yamalube as a part of being Yamalube sponsored, so there's that.
I would not switch from Yamalube to other oil to save money, that just does not appeal to me as making practical sense.
Just my 0.02

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Only sure way to tell is to do a Lab analyses like the one recommended by black stone. Certain oils so different things better. To really dive into this we need to know what the 1.8”s really require?
obviously foaming at High RPM”s is no Bueno,
Do we need a High Moly count to combat metal deteriation?
I’d be REAL curious to learn who actually manufactures Yamaha Lube and what the molecule properties are.

realistically, changing the oil once a year with the type of boating I do Yamalube should hold up just fine, and I think it has proven its self over the years that it will.
 
Just my $.02. Everyone has a preference. I have been running Mobile 1, on the boat, for 4 years now, since we bought the Yamaha. The only issue was a little too much oil put in the dry sump on the first change. The motors spin to 10,200rpm's WOT and I have never had an issue that I noticed with foaming.
I will be going to buy more Mobile 1 and their filters this Spring when I change the oil.
 
I'm sure the 242 has similar comments. The owners manual for the AR230 states "Yamalube or 4-stroke motor oil SE, SF, SG, SH, SJ or SL 10w-30" It says nothing about it being "marine" oil. Read the owners manual for the 242 and you will have your answer.
 
Idk if the Yamalube warranty is B.S. or not, but in my mind if I follow the program and have a bearing failure, there’s a chance they’ll take care of it vs. if I don’t it’s DEFINITELY not covered at all. Price wise, the Yamaha brand oil is not any more than a quality full synthetic. Having not done any oil analysis I can’t say it protects any better. Honestly Yamaha seems to make fairly robust and well built (mechanically) engines and my guess is I’ll be done with this boat long before the engine wears out.
 
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