242 Limited E series Engine hours 40 hours difference?

[h2oskierfl95]

Hello everyone!

I am new to the jet boating world and looking for some advice. I am working with a dealer that has a 2016 242 Limited S E for sale. They took it in on trade and it is in great shape. My one major concern is the engine hours. Port is showing 85 and starboard is showing 18. I have read the posts about the drive by wire issues with the connext, but this seems like a very large discrepancy. When I questioned the dealer, they stated that the previous owner probably shut down the starboard in no wake zone cruising. From what I have read here, this doesn't sound like a wise thing to do. My question is this: Would this be a deal breaker, or am I being overly paranoid? Is this considered a "normal" amount of difference? Thank you for any advice.

 

[GoodCubanito]

Hello everyone!

I am new to the jet boating world and looking for some advice. I am working with a dealer that has a 2016 242 Limited S E for sale. They took it in on trade and it is in great shape. My one major concern is the engine hours. Port is showing 85 and starboard is showing 18. I have read the posts about the drive by wire issues with the connext, but this seems like a very large discrepancy. When I questioned the dealer, they stated that the previous owner probably shut down the starboard in no wake zone cruising. From what I have read here, this doesn't sound like a wise thing to do. My question is this: Would this be a deal breaker, or am I being overly paranoid? Is this considered a "normal" amount of difference? Thank you for any advice.

That is a very big difference... something not right there...

 

[captras]

The dealer should be able to hook up to the ECU and get the readings direct for each engine. I agree with @h2oskierfl95 that something is amiss here. I have never heard of anybody only using one engine (intentionally) to cruise in no wake mode! Makes no sense, has no purpose.

 

[h2oskierfl95]

I've asked the dealership to get the real numbers from the ECU and asked if they could contact the previous owner to try and get the real story. Would running it in single throttle mode explain the difference?

 

[captras]

yea, it might.....just dont believe anybody would do that, but anytnings possible. If they did, then that would explain, but why would you only do that with the same engine all the time?

 

[GoodCubanito]

It is hard to believe someone would run only one specific engine for so long... something weird going on here. Get all the facts and tey to get to the bottom of it before you purchase the boat...

 

[h2oskierfl95]

@captras, Sorry, when I said "single throttle mode" I meant the engine sync feature where you can use the Port throttle to control both engines. I don't know if that would register hours just on the port engine or not.

 

[Plpbecks]

This is a normal occurrence for the e-series, just a quirk with the connext display, not an actual hour difference. Use the higher hour count of the two. If the dealer read actual hours using YDS it would probably show very similar hours for both engines.

 

[ripler]

If that's not the real engine hours displayed on the connext, where is it reading the hours from if not from the ECU?
That's a big difference, when I sold my 2010 SX210 I read the hours one was 481.4 and the other was 480.7.

 

[captras]

@captras, Sorry, when I said "single throttle mode" I meant the engine sync feature where you can use the Port throttle to control both engines. I don't know if that would register hours just on the port engine or not.

doesnt matter if the engines are synched or not. If the engine is running it the engine hours will continue to increase. Still hard to believe somebody would operate with just one engine producing power.....makes no sense!

 

[Plpbecks]

My best understanding is that, for some reason, the Connext units tried to read engine hours from throttle Rather than the actual engine. The e series have the awesome (but confusing in this sense) feature of single throttle operation. Both engines are running, but for some stupid reason the Connext is only counting the hours of one Since that throttle lever is controlling both engines. Hence the disconnect in reported hours to actual hours. A recent software update in the e-series fixes this by pegging the Connext hours to the engine actual hours.

 

[ripler]

My best understanding is that, for some reason, the Connext units tried to read engine hours from throttle Rather than the actual engine. The e series have the awesome (but confusing in this sense) feature of single throttle operation. Both engines are running, but for some stupid reason the Connext is only counting the hours of one Since that throttle lever is controlling both engines. Hence the disconnect in reported hours to actual hours. A recent software update in the e-series fixes this by pegging the Connext hours to the engine actual hours.

That has to be the dumbest thing ever, if what's displayed on the Connext isn't true engine hours then why even display it. I swear Yamaha engineers fo the dumbest stuff.

 

[h2oskierfl95]

My best understanding is that, for some reason, the Connext units tried to read engine hours from throttle Rather than the actual engine. The e series have the awesome (but confusing in this sense) feature of single throttle operation. Both engines are running, but for some stupid reason the Connext is only counting the hours of one Since that throttle lever is controlling both engines. Hence the disconnect in reported hours to actual hours. A recent software update in the e-series fixes this by pegging the Connext hours to the engine actual hours.

I completely believe you, it just seems so silly. By that logic, any time the engine is running at idle and in neutral shouldn't be counted as runtime. I had read in another post that the connext needs to be removed and sent to the factory for the update. Do you know if that is still the case, or can the dealer do it now?

 

[AmesJainchill]

Dealer should be able to pull something like this off the ecu(s) I would imagine that would answer the question definitively as to how the engines were run. Here's mine from the service this fall when they were confirming and fixing the Connext hour desync issue (Connext did have to be sent to GA to alter hours after dealer indicated they applied the fw fix). I run the throttle link pretty much always when I am cruising. Only time I might use both independently is around the docks or other no wake maneuvering.
ECU Hours Port: 95.6
ECU Hours Stbd: 95.5
Connext Port: ~92
Connext Stbd: ~89

 

[ripler]

If someone is buying one of these boats used and the hours on the Connext aren't the true engine hours it's misleading. This can be compared to buying a car with the miles on the odometer being incorrect.

 

[h2oskierfl95]

Ok, got the actual YDS readouts. They are only 0.3 hours off. It does look like it has spent half its life idling around.

 

[kyboater0503]

I realize this is an old post, but my dealer just informed me their is an update to the Connext system that will solve this issue. They are doing mine on Thursday on my 2018 242 SE.

 

[AmesJainchill]

I realize this is an old post, but my dealer just informed me their is an update to the Connext system that will solve this issue. They are doing mine on Thursday on my 2018 242 SE.

Yeah, this update fixed the desync issue on mine last fall.. All good now! ?

 

[tabbibus]

oh great! Will look into this

 

[Julian]

Still hard to believe somebody would operate with just one engine producing power.....makes no sense!

I've done this quite often. Primarily when I want to troll slow and have no need to have both engines running (burning twice the gas). I do try and switch back and forth between them so the engine hours remain the same.