Ford Expedition and Backup Assist

[Adrian @ JB Solutions]

Yeah pretty much. It removes the need to figure out which way the steering wheel needs to go to bend the trailer in the right direction. Again, those who can back a trailer already probably think this is dumb because I did before I used it!

Yeah I know which way it goes - I need something to line up the opening... at night time it is brutal to back in the trailer... basically doing it blind. Thank god for daylight savings time coming up.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I havent quite towed enough to say what the mileage is but overall city and highway around 19mpg. On the highway for road trips it can get in to 20 five or take.

Is that mileage hand calculated or off Ford's lie-o-meter. I have a 2016 4x4 crew cab with the 2.7 and I can't touch 20+mpg regardless of driving conditions and I do not drive it hard at all. I'm pretty much between 17 to 18 miles mpg (hand calculated) whether it's 100% city or 100% interstate. If I had do it over again I would have gotten the 5.0 as I've been displeased with the fuel economy of the ecoboost. It's rarely eco just mostly boost IMO.

 

[Ancient canoe]

I've hand calculated 21 mpg on a tank which was about 1 mpg lower than the computer on the truck. It was mostly highway though. 2016 F150 crew cab with the 2.7. I've been happy with mine. The economy is not as good as advertised, but no vehicle is. I'm not sure what the testing conditions are for the advertised mpg, but I assume the variables are either eliminated or optimal for results, so real world #s are always going to be lower. I've been very happy with the performance. The only thing I am worried about is the longevity of the engines.

I hate the auto shut off function. Not sure if they are still putting that in with the 2.7s. I think it shuts off way to fast after stopping, and you have to deactivate every time you start the vehicle. I wouldn't mind the engine killing at stoplights, but I don't want it killing at stop signs or other instances of very brief stops. So it would be nice if there was a little hesitation before it kills. Even at stoplights what ends up happening is you stop, the engine shuts off, then multiple cars decide to creep forward as they wait leaving a big gap between you and the car in front of you. I don't want to look like an idiot with a full car length between me and the next vehicle so I creep forward as well. If it's a long light that might happen multiple times completely voiding any potential mpg gains. Just driving around town running errands and such my engine would start/stop way too much for my comfort. I don't know how many starts my starter motor has, but I would rather the last one not be on the road.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I've hand calculated 21 mpg on a tank which was about 1 mpg lower than the computer on the truck. It was mostly highway though. 2016 F150 crew cab with the 2.7. I've been happy with mine. The economy is not as good as advertised, but no vehicle is. I'm not sure what the testing conditions are for the advertised mpg, but I assume the variables are either eliminated or optimal for results, so real world #s are always going to be lower. I've been very happy with the performance. The only thing I am worried about is the longevity of the engines.

I hate the auto shut off function. Not sure if they are still putting that in with the 2.7s. I think it shuts off way to fast after stopping, and you have to deactivate every time you start the vehicle. I wouldn't mind the engine killing at stoplights, but I don't want it killing at stop signs or other instances of very brief stops. So it would be nice if there was a little hesitation before it kills. Even at stoplights what ends up happening is you stop, the engine shuts off, then multiple cars decide to creep forward as they wait leaving a big gap between you and the car in front of you. I don't want to look like an idiot with a full car length between me and the next vehicle so I creep forward as well. If it's a long light that might happen multiple times completely voiding any potential mpg gains. Just driving around town running errands and such my engine would start/stop way too much for my comfort. I don't know how many starts my starter motor has, but I would rather the last one not be on the road.

I'm not unhappy with my truck per say as I do like how the 2.7 drives. However, I have friends with the 5.0 that basically get the same fuel economy unless they're in heavy city driving as the 2.7 does little better. With that said, I'd put my money long term on the 5.0 with no turbos if I were betting on longevity. Time will tell I guess.

I believe they are putting the auto shut off on all the 18s but I could be wrong on that. I agree, its a joke and probably has more to do with meeting federal regulations then actually having any real world effect on fuel economy. Most of the time, I can manage the brake pedal so that it doesn't kill the engine. If you don't press down all the way, but just enough to hold the truck still it will idle without cutting off the engine.

 

[Ancient canoe]

I had the same regrets early on as f150 forums reported the 5.0 getting solid highway mpg and since most of my miles are highway I'm not really benefitting much with the 2.7, and the 5.0 is clearly more proven for longevity. I think the fuel economy is a lot more volatile to variables with the ecoboost. I've read reports of great and not great mileage whereas the 5.0 is more consistent.

 

[Bluewater272]

I love the autostart, but I've had it on a number of cars. As Ramblin indicated, it's pretty easy to modulate if you're in a situation where you don't want it to stop. Light pressure on the brake will not killed it, but firmer pressure will. Also, if you did choose to have it stop with pressure, if you let off a little (but not enough to move), it'll restart so you're ready to go when the light turns green. It's become second nature to me.

I think the 2.7 is probably super sensitive at highway speeds to being in boost or not. I have the 3.5, and at 70-75MPH, the truck is always just barely flirting with being in boost. No way you're seeing the EPA numbers on the highway without being at 55MPH.

 

[dnicholas47]

Off the main topic, but you guys with the ecoboost engines may be able to help. I just bought a used '15 Expedition with the 3.5 ecoboost. It seems to have quick shift points so that it gets to the higher gears quickly, but then you hit an incline and the engine bogs down and vibrates - but isn't as quick to downshift. Is this normal for these engines?

 

[InmyElement]

Yeah I’m a fan of the new Expy’s. I have the back up assist on my F150 however I never tried it. Maybe this year I will check it out.

Ditto!