Mooring cover with out poles!

[OperationROL]

I love seeing innovation, so it is cool to see someone rethink this issue. However this is not for me. I would worry that the hole cut would eventually cause the cover to split. Also I worry that suspending the cover would put a lot of stress on those areas if a heavy rain came of a windy day.

As for those of you that are towing with the poles in and erected, it is not the design. The cover is meant to suction to the boat while in tow which is why they have vents. You are risking your cover health. I remember we had a member complaining about their cover not lasting and we eventually found out his boat was stored in full sun and he towed with the poles erected. Double whammy.

When rain has been forecasted, I install the poles before towing but I don't erect them until I park. Since they are already in, it only takes a minute to crawl under and erect them if it looks like it will rain. On days where the rain catches me off guard, I don't sweat it. Those times I may get some pool but just clear the pool once the rain ends. If a little water seeps through every once in a while, I just remember that its a boat designed to get wet. Lol.

 

[swatski]

I love seeing innovation, so it is cool to see someone rethink this issue. However this is not for me. I would worry that the hole cut would eventually cause the cover to split. Also I worry that suspending the cover would put a lot of stress on those areas if a heavy rain came of a windy day.

As for those of you that are towing with the poles in and erected, it is not the design. The cover is meant to suction to the boat while in tow which is why they have vents. You are risking your cover health. I remember we had a member complaining about their cover not lasting and we eventually found out his boat was stored in full sun and he towed with the poles erected. Double whammy.

When rain has been forecasted, I install the poles before towing but I don't erect them until I park. Since they are already in, it only takes a minute to crawl under and erect them if it looks like it will rain. On days where the rain catches me off guard, I don't sweat it. Those times I may get some pool but just clear the pool once the rain ends. If a little water seeps through every once in a while, I just remember that its a boat designed to get wet. Lol.

@OperationROL I agree 100% on the towing with poles ideas.

BUT

About the Hangtite system - I'm not so sure I agree. I am considering buying two sets and mounting the discs where the poles currently project. Maybe add a patch to reinforce, but I do not think it is necessary. Those HT discs are larger in diameter and smoother that the pole top/base. I would argue two sets are necessary - bow and cockpit.

I took some pictures the other day - thinking exactly what you were thinking - but I what I see is that the straps do not provide any support, hardly. Even that "crease" in the bow does not actually line up with the strap.

Here you go (the pics are crappy, but I think you can see what I'm talking about):










EDIT: Maybe if @JetBoatPilot started offering it - would get a favorable response

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[jetboater4life]

I think a hangtite system would work well for those boats on a lift and need to be covered. This will be me next summer so I am going to look at this type of system. I think the hang tite system would be quicker than monkeying with poles. I second the @JetBoatPilot idea

 

[OperationROL]

@OperationROL I agree 100% on the towing with poles ideas.

BUT

About the Hangtite system - I'm not so sure I agree. I am considering buying two sets and mounting the discs where the poles currently project. Maybe add a patch to reinforce, but I do not think it is necessary. Those HT discs are larger in diameter and smoother that the pole top/base. I would argue two sets are necessary - bow and cockpit.

I took some pictures the other day - thinking exactly what you were thinking - but I what I see is that the straps do not provide any support, hardly. Even that "crease" in the bow does not actually line up with the strap.

Here you go (the pics are crappy, but I think you can see what I'm talking about):
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EDIT: Maybe if @JetBoatPilot started offering it - would get a favorable response

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I see your point. I would love to get your feedback once you install yours. I would love to hear great feedback because this would be a much easier system to work with. Looking forward to your install!

 

[myblueheaven305]

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Hangtyte on the bow

 

[hobineros]

I got rain one time on my cover with the straps on and pulls up - let me tell you those straps didn't help support shit. I still had 50 gallons on top of the bow. Fun adventure getting that water off... lol.

Straps are there for keeping the poles upright and in position, that is it nothing more or less.

 

[2kwik4u]

I got rain one time on my cover with the straps on and pulls up - let me tell you those straps didn't help support shit. I still had 50 gallons on top of the bow. Fun adventure getting that water off... lol.

Straps are there for keeping the poles upright and in position, that is it nothing more or less.

I disagree.......They are clearly visible supporting the cover when towing. To say they do nothing is incorrect. To say they don't do much.....meh, I dunno, they seem to work for me. I've been in a couple rainstorms with the straps in place, and the poles out (they just gently pull out of the little plastic things) and never had any pooling to worry about either stationary or while underway.

I can't see how the "hangtite" saves any time or effort. How do you release the thing to lower it for towing without taking the back half of the cover off? Get a ladder and lean over the top of the cover? If the boat is on a trailer, there is no way in hell I can reach that device to release it. I suspect equally as difficult as just climbing under and putting the poles in/up. Dunno, just seems to solve a problem I don't have.

 

[myblueheaven305]

I disagree.......They are clearly visible supporting the cover when towing. To say they do nothing is incorrect. To say they don't do much.....meh, I dunno, they seem to work for me. I've been in a couple rainstorms with the straps in place, and the poles out (they just gently pull out of the little plastic things) and never had any pooling to worry about either stationary or while underway.

I can't see how the "hangtite" saves any time or effort. How do you release the thing to lower it for towing without taking the back half of the cover off? Get a ladder and lean over the top of the cover? If the boat is on a trailer, there is no way in hell I can reach that device to release it. I suspect equally as difficult as just climbing under and putting the poles in/up. Dunno, just seems to solve a problem I don't have.

There is a saying cost is only an issue when there is abscence of value! Hangtyte will have value to some and no value to others! I dry dock my boat and leave my boat in the water on the weekends. This adds value to me because it is easier... I am 5'6 amd 225 pounds.. wide shoulders, large back. it is not easy for me to rumble around under a tarp..

 

[hobineros]

I disagree.......They are clearly visible supporting the cover when towing. To say they do nothing is incorrect. To say they don't do much.....meh, I dunno, they seem to work for me. I've been in a couple rainstorms with the straps in place, and the poles out (they just gently pull out of the little plastic things) and never had any pooling to worry about either stationary or while underway.

I can't see how the "hangtite" saves any time or effort. How do you release the thing to lower it for towing without taking the back half of the cover off? Get a ladder and lean over the top of the cover? If the boat is on a trailer, there is no way in hell I can reach that device to release it. I suspect equally as difficult as just climbing under and putting the poles in/up. Dunno, just seems to solve a problem I don't have.

cover is designed to suck into the boat when towed as previously discussed. Those straps are more pliable than the cover material. they ain't supporting piddly, The poles prevent the rain puddles. that is the only purpose of the pole strap combo.

 

[hobineros]

There is a saying cost is only an issue when there is abscence of value! Hangtyte will have value to some and no value to others! I dry dock my boat and leave my boat in the water on the weekends. This adds value to me because it is easier... I am 5'6 amd 225 pounds.. wide shoulders, large back. it is not easy for me to rumble around under a tarp..

I can reach clear under my Bimini from most any dock... this illustrates the easy and probable point of the HT. One can easily reach the Bimini center without unleashing the cover or even lumbering into the boat ... and honestly... the worse part of covering the boat is pulling the back on last... so anything I can do to avoid getting my fingers pinched each time is a win. lol

 

[hobineros]

I disagree.......They are clearly visible supporting the cover when towing. To say they do nothing is incorrect. To say they don't do much.....meh, I dunno, they seem to work for me. I've been in a couple rainstorms with the straps in place, and the poles out (they just gently pull out of the little plastic things) and never had any pooling to worry about either stationary or while underway.

I can't see how the "hangtite" saves any time or effort. How do you release the thing to lower it for towing without taking the back half of the cover off? Get a ladder and lean over the top of the cover? If the boat is on a trailer, there is no way in hell I can reach that device to release it. I suspect equally as difficult as just climbing under and putting the poles in/up. Dunno, just seems to solve a problem I don't have.

i also imagine the "clip" to function like ur blindes... pull it to the side and tension releases. set it by pulling straight. if not... suggestion to manufacturer! add a long enough rope and u never have to get on the boat. pull and snug it up to ur cleats. bam... they need to pay me

 

[swatski]

For me, the new trailer fenders (that I just got) are making it possible to reach up almost anywhere as I would not be afraid to step up on those, they are solid.
Apart from the ease of not having to crawl around the boat and under the closed windshield to get the poles/straps situated, the biggest advantage of the HT system is to tow with the HT released (and no poles, which is best for the cover) and then just pull up the HT strings/rope when I park. That way I'm protected in case of rain without needing to reinstall the poles. Big help, for me.

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[LionShare]

Anyone with pictures or feedback on these installed on a 21footer? I'm more than convinced that these are worth their weight in gold. The pole system is a massive PITA!!!

qty.2 will do the trick i think....

 

[LionShare]

To be more specific...21ft with backwards facing tower. My only fear is that the rear facing tower won't be high enough due to the rope angle to keep the front unit high enough to shed water.

It's hard to believe that for the price vs. convenience, everyone hasn't installed these. If there ever was a $70 no-brainer MOD.

 

[falco]

Do I really need the poles when i use the Yamaha cover?

 

[Scuba_ref]

Do I really need the poles when i use the Yamaha cover?

Only if it rains!

 

[jetboater4life]

Do I really need the poles when i use the Yamaha cover?

When towing you don't need them even if it is raining. When the boat is parked and the cover is on, the poles should be in. If it rains in this scenario and you don't have them, the water will pool in the front and back areas and rip your cover. Don't ask me how I know.

 

[jetboater4life]

I bought the hangtyte system for my boat. I needed three of them to cover the boat properly. One for the front, one for the middle and one for the back.

 

[0627Devildog]

hangtyte system

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[jetboater4life]

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Are you requesting a picture? Boats with a front facing tower can probably get away with two. They are 39.99 at boats.net. I don't think it was worth it but I have it set up now.