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Seasons, Winterizing, Usage

HangOutdoors

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I live in Michigan and the boating season, at least for recreational and water sports will be coming to an end within 4-6 weeks give or take as things start to cool down. I will probably do some fishing in September or October but will see how that plays out. I plan on winterizing the boat. But then I was thinking, what if we wanted to go down south, even to Florida in the middle of the winter here or out to Arizona or surrounding areas, how would that work out? I guess it would be a PITA to de-winterize use the boat for a week and the re-winterize it.

Not sure if we are going to build a boat garage this fall or next year, the days are ticking by too fast. Would the smart thing be to find heated storage and then do a minimal winterization? Maybe just pull the battery, and use Stabil in the tank? Etc.

Looking for some thoughts and advice on the topic. Thanks
 
Nothing really required for winterization. The water boxes are cylindrical and have baffles in them... so much that I couldn't get all the water out of them when I removed to install a secondary bilge pump with a float in my boat.

Just dump some stabile in that gas tank and don't sweat it if you go south or west! If you trailer your boat from MI and drive to AZ or FL, that is going to be the real PIA in the winter ;)
 
If you trailer your boat from MI and drive to AZ or FL, that is going to be the real PIA in the winter ;)

Better than sitting here looking at pictures from the last summer and burning up Money on Amazon for Mods I can't install to the spring :)
 
Nothing really required for winterization. The water boxes are cylindrical and have baffles in them... so much that I couldn't get all the water out of them when I removed to install a secondary bilge pump with a float in my boat.

Just dump some stabile in that gas tank and don't sweat it if you go south or west! If you trailer your boat from MI and drive to AZ or FL, that is going to be the real PIA in the winter ;)

100% spot on, there is no such thing as dewinterize with a yamaha. Other than us Northern folk put the batteries on chargers if they have not been on a tender all winter. The fuel will be stabilized, so you may want to put a bit more in before coming back up North. But it will be no different than when you pull it out in the spring.

But you will want to be sure to drain those cleanouts before making the drive. I would hate to see a 1' x 6" cylinder of ice on top of each of those plugs!
 
Ok, so what about winter storage? Obviously the further down the list the more it costs me.

1) Use the shipping cover and store outside?
2) Get the boat Shrink Wrapped and store outside?
3) Store inside in unheated storage with shipping or mooring cover on?
4) Store inside in heated storage with shipping or mooring cover on?
 
Ok, so what about winter storage? Obviously the further down the list the more it costs me.

1) Use the shipping cover and store outside?
2) Get the boat Shrink Wrapped and store outside?
3) Store inside in unheated storage with shipping or mooring cover on?
4) Store inside in heated storage with shipping or mooring cover on?
Depends on your situation. 1 & 2 some are prohibited by space or homeowner association rules. I go with #3 and store at our county fairground in a very nice building (unheated) with cover on. They charge $11 / foot to store for the winter so it's not that expensive.
 
I live in Wisconsin, we have a good 12 weeks of season left! I'm not going skiing in October (although I've been known to, when I was younger), but the fall leaves look great in October. Hell, last year I took a couple of pictures of a guy fishing next to ice when the lake started freezing up for the year, sometime around Thanksgiving.

People complain about the length of the boat season in the Northern part of the country, but the only months we haven't had our boat in the water is December, January, and February. Granted, March and November don't happen too often, and it's never that warm, but it can be done. I can't remember the last time we weren't on the boat in April and October.
 
Get out there and enjoy the boat, I pull and store around Halloween in central Ohio. Usually Labor Day is last hurrah, but with COVID and the fall HS sports & activities situation we will likely extend boating till October this season.
 
Just move to East NC and boat almost year round with me! ???
 
@mkbcaptain Wish I could, I really like NC a lot. Would have to trade in the Admiral though, she wouldn't move. :rolleyes:
 
Well you’re always more than welcome to come visit!
 
I live in Michigan and the boating season, at least for recreational and water sports will be coming to an end within 4-6 weeks give or take as things start to cool down. I will probably do some fishing in September or October but will see how that plays out. I plan on winterizing the boat. But then I was thinking, what if we wanted to go down south, even to Florida in the middle of the winter here or out to Arizona or surrounding areas, how would that work out? I guess it would be a PITA to de-winterize use the boat for a week and the re-winterize it.

Not sure if we are going to build a boat garage this fall or next year, the days are ticking by too fast. Would the smart thing be to find heated storage and then do a minimal winterization? Maybe just pull the battery, and use Stabil in the tank? Etc.

Looking for some thoughts and advice on the topic. Thanks

You can take this for what it’s worth. I moved away from the cold communist NY awhile back, for warmer pastures, never to return, but I spent a lot of my time in the bitter cold.

If you can store indoor, I would. Cover on, and something to repel critters, as boats makes good winter hiding spots.

I’m going to assume since you talked about building a boat garage you have a little room, a option for this winter if you don’t have time to get a structure built is to buy a tarp covered pop up garage, I linked one below, you might want to spend a little more and get one with a metal frame to hold up to the snow. My dad stores his tractor in one all winter in upstate NY with no issues, just anchor it down. Again, I would use your boat cover as well and critter repellent.


I haven’t winterized a Yamaha, but fuel stabilizer, pull the batteries, and maybe run some anti freeze in the flush out ports. Shouldn’t take much effort at all to de/re winterize if you take a trip.
 
One additional thing I do if I'm leaving the boat parked for a while is to leave it on jack stands to protect the tires.

@HangOutdoors are you the one I saw with a picture of a boot on your trailer wheel? I might add that to my own list.
 
Yes if you are talking about the yellow clamp on wheel. Amazon It is not perfect but decent and just another deterrent.

 
I personally don't like my boat sitting outside all winter, so I rent a space in someone's garage. Do all the winterizing stuff. I will probably use the shipping cover to cover it. I worry about mice, so I stop by the dollar store for a box of bounce dryer sheets (not sure if it works but I'm willing to try for a $1. scatter those sheet around the boat. Put the drain plug in. The guy I rent from has a bunch of mouse bait stations surrounding his garage. Never had an issue with them to date.
 
Many threads on winterizing here. Some difference of opinion on what it takes, too.

I followed this recipe (not including washing / waxing / other cosmetic routine):

  • Fuel stabilizer in last tank before pulling (run it to circulate stablizer) and filled to near top (minimize room for condensation but leave room for expansion when it gets warm in spring)
  • Oil change (Not required for winter, but I did this annually and subscribe to theory that changing in fall is best so fresh oil sits in your engines during the long winter nap - no sludge, varnish, or particulate to settle out. Others prefer to change in spring and have their own set of reasons. Do a jetboaters.net search on this.)
  • Run on hose for a bit to circulate fresh oil
  • Get as much water out of boat as possible: rev engines a couple times to clear water boxes (won't clear 100%, but less water is better), jack up bow as high as safe & practical to drain as much water out of sump as possible (if any), check nooks & crannies for any pooled water & remove if found (usually did not find)
  • Lightly fog engines following Yamaha procedure for my engines
  • Check if main bearings needed grease (I think I added a squeeze or two to each side one year)
  • Pull batteries to put on conditioner over the winter
  • Use painters tape on all thru-hull holes to keep any critters out
  • Remove all items from boat & stored in basement to allow air circulation inside boat & minimize chance for mold or mildew (including all removable cushions)
  • Place a couple of cheap plastic buckets with Damp Rid inside in different areas of boat (buckets catch any excess water if the damp rid gets saturated)
  • Store at indoor unheated storage facility* with mooring cover on and jack stands to take load off tires**
  • Make sure mooring cover belt is snug but not overly so to avoid distorting hull
Effort rating: two beers

Never used antifreeze. Spent more time maintaining trailer bearings as it got older, usually during season, added a bit of grease before winterizing last year or two.

*Stored in heated facility the first couple of seasons mainly because I got a screaming deal, not necessary
**Jack stands in a commercial storage facility took a little coordination w facility, they were not thrilled but did cooperate

Anyway, this is what I did in SE Wisconsin. Our winters are a bit colder than yours, but not by much. For me, the biggest pain was shlepping all the boat contents down into the basement for storage (and I carried a lot of gear - more than most would - as my main boating waters were Lake Michigan and I was always prepared for whatever). But, it was worth it: I never fought mold or mildew at all, my boat was always in pristine condition, gave me eight seasons of zero-trouble service, and brought top dollar when it came time to sell.

Recommissioning in spring:

  • Install charged, happy, ready--to-go batteries (and put lawnmower battery on now-available conditioner)
  • Remove painters tape from thru-hull
  • Remove Damp Rid buckets & discard
  • Re-stow various boating gear
  • Replace cushions
  • After first launch, run boat gently for first 15 minutes or so to make sure lube everywhere and fog oil burned off
  • After first run of season (and fog oil is definitely gone), I replaced all spark plugs (note my MR-1 engines were SUPER spark plug sensitive, so I proactively replaced each spring... not sure this is necessary on newer 1.8s)
Effort rating: one beer

That's about it. No lower unit work. Nearly all annual maintenance done. Reliably safe for winter. Reliably ready fpr spring. No big deal.

PS: I may have forgotten one or two steps, will edit/update later if remember more. Also, this is what I did, on a 2008 SX-230, which was similar to but not exactly the same as newer Yamahas and other models. YMMV.
 
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I do my yearly plugs, lube, and oil in June. Keep fuel treatment year round.

In late October, I hook up the hose, fog the engine, turning off the hose a few seconds before killing the engine. Perform trailer maintenance. Put it tight against the wall without cover in the toy garage and attach battery tender. Clean and mod it during winter as desired. You probably do not need to fog it if you are using it during winter. Many say you don't need to fog the modern engine.

In January, I sit in it with a heat lamp and play Jimmy Buffet music ;)
 
Nothing really required for winterization. The water boxes are cylindrical and have baffles in them... so much that I couldn't get all the water out of them when I removed to install a secondary bilge pump with a float in my boat.

Just dump some stabile in that gas tank and don't sweat it if you go south or west! If you trailer your boat from MI and drive to AZ or FL, that is going to be the real PIA in the winter ;)
@mark_m ....agree but, respectfully suggest, that I would take 15 minutes to run some a-freeze through the motor as a rust inhibitor. If @HangOutdoors takes his rig south he can run some a-freeze through his engine before he returns home. My boat will be stored in heated, climate controlled storage but I STILL run a-freeze through for the rust inhibitors.
 
@Canuckjetboater - this is an honest question from a non-mechanical person, anti-anti-freeze member,

this is the first time I think I've heard some one post an anti-rusting theory for using anti-freeze,

I understand the use of anti-freeze in a vehicle with a closed cooling system and it retarding rust with liquid pooled in places.

our engines are self draining so no where does water pool except in a low cooling line or the water box/muffler,

So you're thinking the anti-freeze leaves enough residual properties as it drips dry to "coat" and prevent rusting ?

Do you have any previous experience with a system like this or seeing residual properties prevent rusting ?

Do you think rusting in the Yamaha cooling system is a concern like sediment build up in the cooling system is ?
 
@Scottintexas .....yes I am convinced from disassembling marine engines, headers, exhaust elbows, impeller housings etc. that even when we blew compressed air through engines water was left behind - a lot more than we expected. The remedy for us was to run some a-freeze through. IMO it takes so little time and costs so little that I just won't take a chance. If you have handled marine a-freeze or even a-freeze with rust inhibitors it is "slippery" and "sticky" it is my opinion that property of the a-freeze coats the internal water passageways and significantly reduces if not stopping outright corrosion. :cool: BTW I read today that someone on this forum mentioned they found areas in the Yamaha engine that retained water.
 
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