Tow vehicle?

[Zeusmotorworks]

Anyone tow their 210 FSH with a Toyota 4Runner. Wife has a 2014 Trail Edition. Any feedback on that?

 

[djetok]

Anyone tow their 210 FSH with a Toyota 4Runner. Wife has a 2014 Trail Edition. Any feedback on that?

4700 to 5000 lb tow capacity. I have seen people pull boats with less. I would tow it on short runs, but long runs you might want to look at something bigger. Does it have a tow package with a trans cooler?

 

[Zeusmotorworks]

4Runner's listed for 5000 lbs towing (yes tow package)... would be short runs, but was looking for someone who does it. I saw the review with either Jet Boat Pilot, or Boattest.com using a 4Runner for a tow vehicle in their 210 FSH Sport video. Can't remember which, but was hoping someone here could chime in. Won't be giving up the Toyotas.

 

[Tailwaters]

Will be just fine, that 3.5L is a great motor.

 

[Zeusmotorworks]

It's a 2014... 4.0 liter w/auto

 

[Dixie Highway]

Doesn’t the 210/ trailer package approach 4,000 lbs? Add fuel, gear, and a few passengers in the 4 runner you’re pretty close. Not enough margin for me to take it more than a couple miles.

 

[swatski]

We towed our older (2012) SX190 with a 2016(?) 4R LTD a few times including a long FL trip - and that was fine.
It is a 4.ol engine, done well with a 190. With 210? IDK, I would be reluctant to do it all the time, but if that is the only option I would think of three things: 1. making sure the vehicle is completely broken in (engine has over 5k miles), 2. the trailer perfectly leveled, the bow post can be moved if necessary to adjust tongue weight and eliminate any excessive squat I would worry about, 3. splurge on premium gas, 93 octane. The later makes a substantial difference when towing (or even daily driving in higher gears at highway speeds) as Toyota ECUs seem to adjust ignition timing substantially depending on fuel.

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[Zeusmotorworks]

Truth is, until we get a local slip in our marina it would be a 3 to 4 mile round trip tops. Not likely/often it would be going further.

 

[Rainmakr]

I tow my SX190 and trailer with a Toyota Tacoma (6500 lbs towing capacity) and it does just fine. I know there are a few members on here that tow their 210 FSH Sport with a Tacoma as well. The Tacoma and 4Runner are close to the same truck. As long as your below the max tow rating of the 4Runner, I dont see any issue for short trips. I also plan on upgrading to the FSH 210 Deluxe in the near future and plan on towing it with my Tacoma.

 

[swatski]

I tow my SX190 and trailer with a Toyota Tacoma (6500 lbs towing capacity) and it does just fine. I know there are a few members on here that tow their 210 FSH Sport with a Tacoma as well. The Tacoma and 4Runner are close to the same truck. As long as your below the max tow rating of the 4Runner, I dont see any issue for short trips. I also plan on upgrading to the FSH 210 Deluxe in the near future and plan on towing it with my Tacoma.

Yes and no. In my own experience the 4Runners (w/4.0 v6) are fine with 190s. The inline 4cyl in tacoma (2.5?) would be marginal at best I would think, but the 3.5 V6 is probably okay and the bottom line is: tow ratings certainly have you covered (at 6,500lbs) with either 190, or 210, or 240.

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[Rainmakr]

Yes and no. In my own experience the 4Runners (w/4.0 v6) are fine with 190s. The inline 4cyl in tacoma (2.5?) would be marginal at best I would think, but the 3.5 V6 is probably okay and the bottom line is: tow ratings certainly have you covered (at 6,500lbs) with either 190, or 210, or 240.

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Definitely meant the V6. I would not tow the boats with the 4cyl.

 

[Tailwaters]

Pulled a 26 Powerquest which was about 6500lbs with my FJ and Tacoma with absolutely no issues. Matter of fact I towed my 19 FHA with an AWD Toyota Venza with the 3.5l 100 miles last summer one way with no issues. The 4runner Isa pretty large vehicle

 

[Betik]

@Zeusmotorworks for 4 miles I would not loose any sleep over it. Do the steps that @swatski mentioend and drive consevrvativly. You will be fine

 

[Zeusmotorworks]

Thank guys, just have not towed anything over my 2500 lbs adventure trailer (offroad tent trailer). It tows like it's not there at all. Was not sure how a loaded 210 FSH would come out of a boat ramp.

BTW, my only other tow vehicle is an FJ Cruiser on 35's so it's more of the same... and it's a 6MT.

... and only use 93 octane in all my vehicles. Will look into moving the bow post if need be. It's already coming with the tandem axle aluminum trailer.

 

[suke]

I tow my 212x with a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It has 285's with 3.73 gears, you'll be just fine. I do however have air suspension which helps. I'd assume that trailer comes with at least surge brakes, no?

 

[Zeusmotorworks]

Yes, trailer has surge brakes... that will be new to me too. My adventure trailer's are electric.

 

[suke]

Yes, trailer has surge brakes... that will be new to me too. My adventure trailer's are electric.

They were new to me too. My FIL has towed trailers and even been a long haul trucker for much of his life. He said he prefers surge brakes over electric every day of the week. Electric he said can be kinda jerky and not very linear in application. Where as surge tends to be much smoother.

 

[Zeusmotorworks]

Are they adjustable? Seems like you could have too much or not enough brake... also what about in the wet or other low traction circumstances?

 

[2kwik4u]

They were new to me too. My FIL has towed trailers and even been a long haul trucker for much of his life. He said he prefers surge brakes over electric every day of the week. Electric he said can be kinda jerky and not very linear in application. Where as surge tends to be much smoother.

You sure that's not backwards? Don't want to doubt what he said, but what you've described is exactly opposite of how these systems work. Electric is inherently linear, and surge is inherently reactive (jerky).

 

[swatski]

I tow my 212x with a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. It has 285's with 3.73 gears, you'll be just fine. I do however have air suspension which helps. I'd assume that trailer comes with at least surge brakes, no?

Hmmm... There is so much here.

Regarding trailer brakes, I believe all but 190 single axle trailers have surge brakes. However dual axle trailers have the brakes mounted only on one of the two axles.
I like those brakes, you can feel those working no doubt, but like @2kwik4u said I believe the electric ones are eminently better, especially in salt water environment. At least that is what I have been told by trailer guys I talk to, but I'm curious.

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