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I WANT THIS!!! <copter>

I looked at the parrot / ardrone 2.0 over a year ago , I think they have a premium or 3.0 out now. Basically it looks good for practicing especially indoors but it's not really in the same league as the dji or even the smaller quad copters you have because it doesn't have a dedicated conventional transmitter, it uses an iPhone or iPad so it shares the same 2.4 ghz spectrum for it's control and video. This may make it more apt to channel conflict where someone else's apple device could disrupt either or both the heli controls or video controls/feed. Also It cannot handle the wind as well because it is so light weight.

I think If you were to buy one you would out grow it quickly and end up getting a more conventional multi copter of some type so I recommend that you start there, specifically with the fc 40, the incremental $150 buys a lot of features and functionality over the parrot. I've seen used parrots for 1/2 price on craigslist most of the time it is because the user is upgrading or has upgraded to a bigger multi rotor copter. The fc 40 doesn't have all the Bells and whistles the phantom 2 does but it is still very tough especially if you add blade guards for another $20 and the flight time is around 15 minutes per battery. 15 minutes is a long time when it's your money in the air. One benefit of the gen 1 is that its batteries are only $20ish each instead of $160 for the gem 2s batteries.

Incidentally, I bought my son a ts1 mini quad copter by helimax (has a camera but no fpv) before I gave him my gen 1 phantom, it is much harder to fly than either the gen 1, gen 2 and parrot. It hovers hands free just fine, I think all multi copters do but actually flying it is hard and I started flying rc helis over 10 years ago. If you can "fly" a small quad copter flying a bigger one like a phantom should be easy by comparison.

FYI lot of the flyaways I have read about, at least where the DJI's are concerned, seem to be caused by failure of the user to wait for confirmation that enough satellites were supporting the flight. I think a lot of these guys just forget or intentionally pass on doing the preflight, then they take off without the gps assist working properly and without setting a "home" location. If all this is done, the chances of experiencing a fly away are slim to none. Some guys even use the return to home function as a default way to get the bird back. They just turn the transmitter off and wait for the phantom to do its thing.

Many of the crashes I've read about stem from people being confused about the advanced orientation mode of the DJI helis. When this is active, it doesn't matter which way the heli is actually pointed (which is the front end), the heli will always react in regard to how it is oriented to the transmitter, for instance, if you pull back on the right control stick it the heli will come back to the transmitter no matter which way the heli is actually oriented. I have a lot of old school rc heli habits that are hard to break so I don't use the advanced orientation mode as it confuses me. I've tried it though and it does work.
 
@Ronnie good to know thanks! I have my heli sitting upstairs and it stares at me every time I iron my shirt in the morning... just begging me to fly it again. I havent flown in 5 years. Back then I would have been all over the quad's, now I can hardly find time to clean the boat after I use it. Life is crazy...

BTW I'm a member of Runryder also.... since:

Date Registered: 02-25-2005 3379 days ago

I just joined Runryder to post a classified to sell my Kyosho Concept 60 SR. I got many leads within couple of days. And to think I almost tossed it in the garbage can a couple weeks ago!
 
The more I read about the DJI copters and the new breed of copters in general, the more interested I get. They make some amazing BVR (Beyond Visual Range) flight control systems and auto pilot control systems for copters now. The DJI Phantom Vision 2+ comes with a nice gimble and what seems like really cool flight controls (auto altitude for example-where it will hold an altitude).

I've been playing with my little mini copter at home over the weekend (I had some minor surgery Friday--so no boating---and I'm fine) so I was stuck at the house. I'm getting better at flying it and landing it, but still suck if it spins around on me - I can't keep my bearings when it does that.

But lots of fun to dream about these things!
 
Now my "luxuries" shopping lists is expanding!
  • DJI Phantom Vision 2
  • Canon 70D SLR (with a nice 18-135 IS lens)
  • Aerial Airborne Tower (with racks, speakers, amp, and PA)
  • New tower PC (or maybe laptop) for rendering videos
 
I just ordered a 2 axis gimbal (that is supposed to be software upgradable to 3 axis soon) from rotor pixel. It was just over $400 and the delivery time is 4 to 6 weeks. It's a plug and play device and I won't lose any functionality that I have now, hopefully I'll get it sooner than later.

Incidentally, I've seen a few lightly used phantom 2s with and with/without a camera on Craigslist for as little as $700. Used phantom 2 visions (with camera) are selling for less than $900. Maybe the introduction of the vision + is driving the prices down on the non + versions.
 
I have to hold off on the copter now....I went and bought a couple of electric scooters for us to tool around town on. 17-18 mpg gets old after a while. My daughter called me a geek - yet she wanted to use one last night, go figure. I told her no! She'd romp it, I know her. Besides, saving gas helps this geek pay your friggin' college tuition! ;)
 
Got pics? I thought about getting an electric razor scooter with a seat on it last year, it was one of the bigger ones. My son and I could have some fun around the neighborhood with them, well me on the seated version and him on a standup.
 
Got pics? I thought about getting an electric razor scooter with a seat on it last year, it was one of the bigger ones. My son and I could have some fun around the neighborhood with them, well me on the seated version and him on a standup.
Sounds like the ones we got:
ecosmart_prod.jpg I'm going to paint it black and put a Harley Davidson emblem on it....lol
 
I was reading this months addition of Showboats International and stumbled across a waterproof drone. It's pretty spendy but says you can crash land into water and all will be good.

www.seahex.com
 
I've seen "cheaper" ones but I think it would be cheaper and easier to cannobalize a phantom 1 for parts to put into a water proof / floating body made by Aqua or hydra copter I think. Add a gopro to the bottom and you are in business for around $1k is my guess , plus up to $300 more if you need bigger motors, electronic speed controllers and / or batteries.
 
I just got the phantom Vision 2+. I gotta say...pretty incredible!
 
My biggest fear about buying one of these is I'd use it for a couple of months...then it would gather dust on the shelf!

Thats what I am worried about too. Now that I have it I can think of a ton of things I can do with it. But yea totally hear ya on that.
 

Check it out :) You can even see my boat on the side yard :)
 
I was reluctant to fly this past weekend at rage on the river (big raft up event in Sacramento). I've never seen so many sherriffs, coast guard, fire department and even game warden representatives in one place at one time. I started flying when the coast was clear but within minutes I was flying over patrols and many waived to the camera. I can't speak to what's happening at the national parks but the sac delta river authorities are cool.

It's sucks that I don't have the option to fly on national parks anymore but I probably would not excersise it anyway. If I crash off trail at Yosemite getting the copter back may be much more difficult if not impossible. Many have already taken and posted such footage so at least there is that but it is nowhere near as cool as taking the footage myself.
 
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