Lucky 13 Cone

[paratrooper39]

@swatski I do not have grease, Jerry said that I could just swap over the existing grease from the OEM cone... unless of course you wanna ship me some

 

[swatski]

@swatski I do not have grease, Jerry said that I could just swap over the existing grease from the OEM cone... unless of course you wanna ship me some

It most likely will be sufficient, but you may want to have some handy just in case. The cone will not take more than 2-3 oz.
Please PM me your address, I'll put it in the mail tonight, hope I make it before they close.

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[skbishop90]

Standing by....ever so patiently....awaiting the results.

 

[paratrooper39]

That makes two of us haha

 

[paratrooper39]

Ok so I have received and installed the new cone, which as promised was extremely easy. I would say the entire deal took me about 20 min or so. I was only able to test the boat with a couple a people in it and there was no tubing as the water was just too busy, however I can say a few things. 1- the boat did seem to pull a bit harder but more importantly it was much more reactive in turns. Again, I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make when a tube is pulling pulled but I am excited to see. 2- I do believe that the overall cavitation was reduced, however when viewing my impeller I suspect I've found the bigger issue, which likely is keeping me from being blown away by the cone. I have to guess that the nice little wave in my impeller isn't helping matters at all. So now I have to figure out that situation and move forward from there.

 

[Bill D]

Yeah man, that impeller needs a refurb.

 

[swatski]

Ok so I have received and installed the new cone, which as promised was extremely easy. I would say the entire deal took me about 20 min or so. I was only able to test the boat with a couple a people in it and there was no tubing as the water was just too busy, however I can say a few things. 1- the boat did seem to pull a bit harder but more importantly it was much more reactive in turns. Again, I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make when a tube is pulling pulled but I am excited to see. 2- I do believe that the overall cavitation was reduced, however when viewing my impeller I suspect I've found the bigger issue, which likely is keeping me from being blown away by the cone. I have to guess that the nice little wave in my impeller isn't helping matters at all. So now I have to figure out that situation and move forward from there.

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I would get a new OEM impeller, would not bother with anything else. If will be better and less expensive actually.
Also check your wear ring and the clearances. I think you will be amazed when it's all done.

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[skbishop90]

If you still saw a noticeable difference with THAT, I'm sold on the cones. I'll be getting one shortly. Did you adjust it in or out with the shims and notice anything? Or just leave it alone one you noticed the impeller?

 

[paratrooper39]

@skbishop90 I didn't make any adjustments at all, mainly just because I was told that the best setup tested has been with all three spacers in, so I didn't bother.

 

[skbishop90]

I'll be getting this in the coming weeks. I'll let you know my results, as well. As far as I know, I dont have any impeller issues. ***Knock on wood***

Can you send me the link you used to buy yours?

 

[paratrooper39]

Here's to hoping you don't find an impeller looking like mine. I guess it doesn't take much to really disrupt the flow and cause issues.

 

[skbishop90]

Did you bore out the nozzle the 3mm or whatever that is recommended?

Have you done any other modifications? Ribbon delete? If I plan on keeping the boat, I may do the cone, ribbon delete and being in Alabama I'd have to do the intercooler kit.

 

[paratrooper39]

I did not bore the nozzle just because I wanted to test it as is first. The instructions did also mention to bore it out which I still may do, but as of yet nope. As far as other mods I haven't done anything for the engine, totally stock.

 

[skbishop90]

I was going to do the same thing. Once you bore it, you can't undo it. lol

 

[skbishop90]

Got my cone in today. Waiting on the grease before I start the install. Man, these things are smaller than I thought. They look bigger in other pictures. I can already hear it, "Thats what she said".

 

[2kwik4u]

Got my cone in today. Waiting on the grease before I start the install. Man, these things are smaller than I thought. They look bigger in other pictures. I can already hear it, "Thats what she said".

What kind of grease is needed?

And I'll go ahead....."that's what she said"

 

[SamCF]

I mixed marine grease and marine gear oil into a paste that was liquid, but just firm enough to install the cone without it spilling.

 

[AdamB]

Got my cone in today. Waiting on the grease before I start the install. Man, these things are smaller than I thought. They look bigger in other pictures. I can already hear it, "Thats what she said".

I know this is an old post, but do you have an update on how this cone performed? I have the same boat with the same concerns when pulling a tuber. I am wondering if this helped at all.

 

[Chris D]

Anyone else running the Lucky 13? I have a good amount of cavitation on my 2017 AR195 with 6 adults and 2 kids when wakeboarding. Cavatation normally only occurs when starting from a stand still.

 

[DavisAR195]

Anyone else running the Lucky 13? I have a good amount of cavitation with 6 adults and 2 kids when wakeboarding. Cavatation normally only occurs when starting from a stand still.

I have a 2017 AR 195 and the Lucky 13 is a game changer. The Lucky 13 with all three spacers has no impact on overall top speed and damn near eliminates all cavitation especially while loaded down with ballast or people.